Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Steve Williams (Singer/songwriter/pianist)


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The result was   keep per unanimity of responses. Non-admin closure by Skomorokh  05:51, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Steve Williams (Singer/songwriter/pianist)

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I declined a speedy tag, but I don't believe this subject meets notability criteria; namely, WP:MUSIC or WP:BAND. Tan  |   39  18:48, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Could you confirm whether Steve's collaboration with Beth Rowley, currently a very significant artist, and his work with Jamelia meet the criteria for notability? And if not, why not? Could you give some indication of what would make him "significant" if this doesn't. Would his broadcast on Radio 2, playing live for the Paul Jones Blues Hour, count if I could get verification?

Many thanks
 * Did you spend any time researching the policies I posted above? You should read them and use them as a basis for your arguments. Specifically, read this list of criteria and see if this artist meets the criteria. As I read them, he does not. Tan   |   39  19:00, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

OK, point 9. "Has won or placed in a major music competition." Steve won in the UK Song Writing Competition in 1994 with his song "Need Your Love" and his song "Corners" was a finalist in the BBC's Sold on Song competition in 2005, so he has won or been placed twice in two major music competitions.

Incidentally, does being the son of someone famous qualify you as notable?


 * Point nine might work. Let's get some input from other editors. And as to your last question, definitely not. Tan   |   39  19:13, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

That's what I thought. Just curious as to why Ben Castle's entry hasn't been deleted. Steve seems to have as much going for him as Ben does, except for not being the son of somebody famous.

I have now found an archived web link to the results of the 2004 UK Song Writing Competition and will add it to the article in a mo.


 * Weak keep Based on the award and the couple of third-party refs, I think he meets notability, barely. Article BADLY needs cleaned up, lots of OR removed, and a better title (something shorter than "(Singer/songwriter/pianist)". Also a question; I was going to suggest the title Steve Williams (musician), but I see that's linked by Power Quest. Is this the same person? JeremyMcCracken (talk) (contribs) 21:39, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

No, that is a different Steve Williams. I'd be happy to change the title....just felt the one I went with was a better description of who he is and what he does. Will also clean up the article.....was taking a lead from other similar articles there.
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  00:15, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. Meets WP:MUSIC. IMHO, there is more references for this Steve to be independently notable than the Steve from Power Quest. Give this one a quick tidy up and move the lot to Steve Williams (musician).   Esradekan Gibb    "Talk" 00:16, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Splendid, thanks. Would prefer to keep the singer/songwriter title though if possible.....it's a more accurate reflection of what he does, especially in light of his songwriting competition achievements being the basis for his inclusion.


 * Move To Steve Williams (songwriter) as that seems to be what he is notable for. Jasynnash2 (talk) 11:10, 12 June 2008 (UTC)


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