Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Steven Blackford


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The result was keep. BD2412 T 01:56, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

Steven Blackford

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Fails WP:NCOLLATH as a collegiate wrestler. His unfortunate death as a passenger in an automobile accident (afternoon, speeding) fails WP:VICTIM. Article has been tagged for 10 years. UW Dawgs (talk) 00:26, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
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*Delete No reliable sources given. As above, notability is not inherited. --Whiteguru (talk) 11:36, 4 September 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep very notable wrestler in life and notable in death. Death was covered by ESPN here and many other national news like the LA Times here, Chicago Tribune here. He was a 3 time NCAA Division 1 All American. 2000 Pac-10 Wrestler of the Year, Two-time Pac-10 Champion (2000, 2001) here He has a wrestling tournament named after him here Lightburst (talk) 01:01, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete His death was mentioned in articles about his more-famous girlfriend who was charged with careless driving in causing his death. If she were not an Olympic medalist, his death would not have been reported like this. Notability is not inherited. MB 01:44, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. Agree with User: Lightburst below.Knox490 (talk) 22:10, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Question. The article asserts that he was a three-time All-American. Has anyone checked to see if that's correct?  If it is correct, that would seem to establish presumptive notability under WP:NCOLLATH. Cbl62 (talk) 18:57, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment - Yes, verified with one of the sources above. I added two references. GaryColemanFan (talk) 15:20, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment this should probably be closed as keep based on the fact that this person was a 3 time all-American as has said. The person has a WP:NCOLLATH pass. contacting    Lightburst (talk) 02:30, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment Agree with the three time All-American award meeting WP:NCOLLATH. Vote changed to  Keep  --Whiteguru (talk) 05:18, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Barkeep49 (talk) 16:57, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment' The keeps all assume being a NCAA all-American meets WP:NCOLLATH. I'm not convinced that is true. All-American in NCAA wrestling is one of the top 8 finishers in a weight class, so there are 80 All-Americans each year in wrestling. This doesn't seem like a "national award" per WP:NCOLLATH#1. #4 (Have won multiple NCAA Division I national championships as an individual in an individual sport) seems much more applicable to me, and all we know is that he apparently finished in the top 8 three times. There is no indication he was won a single championship, let alone three. Furthermore, this guideline is a presumption of notability suggesting there should be sigcov in independent RS. But no one has found any, further suggesting he is not notable. MB 02:07, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Correct and a better summary than I drafted. In recent years, there are 8 national champions and 80 All-Americans -10 weight classes with 8 AAs in each.2018. Nationally he finished 4th/165# (1999), 3rd/165# (2000), 5th/165# (2001). See pages 4/5/7. He fails the WP:NCOLLATH guideline on items 2, 3, 4, and 5. Item 1 says "national award" rather than "All-American." About 1 in 30 Div I wrestlers are AA, whereas it's about 1 in 120 for football (read NCOLLATH's football callout). Anyhow, it's a guideline. Are there sufficient RS citations prior to his high-profile death in the car of a female Olympic wrestling medalist for GNG? UW Dawgs (talk) 06:17, 15 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep Notable wrestler with ‘National Award’ . Although stub template should be placed. ThePediaGeek (talk) 16:48, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep, - Per above, he has achieve national award, meets WP:GNG . It would be better if some more information, such as his background, life, education, is added.
 * Keep - article needs improvements but is within WP:GNG.BabbaQ (talk) 18:58, 20 September 2020 (UTC)


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