Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Steven Kray


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Redirect to Tin Foil Phoenix. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-09 08:42Z 

Steven Kray

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Appears to be an auto-biographical or self-promotional page. User:Stevenkray could be using sockpuppets on this, adding links to a variety of articles. {among them is a duplicate page he created here, which I redirected). Google test showed no signs of notability under WP:BIO. Band may be (just barely) notable, but this page seems excessive, and contains unverified claims. I say delete, and maybe merge sourced essentials into the band's page. Danski14 02:14, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete The band's limited notability doesn't extend to this member, especially given that all the sources seem to be connected to the subject in some way. There has been apparent sockpupperty on many articles associated with this subject and an excess of self-promotion.  Wikipedia doesn't exist to promote Mr. Kray and his various enterprises.  janejellyroll 02:24, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment- I agree. I am just beginning to scrutinize the related articles.. for instance, Lady Venom and C4 Records. However, they are of the nature that any AfDs on them should be dealt with on an article to article basis. I also just realized that Steven Kray was previously speedy deleted. Danski14 02:36, 5 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom Josh Parris
 * Delete per nom. Edeans 03:30, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Edison 04:44, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete vain vanity in vain. JuJube 19:18, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment Revision as of 14:36, 9 September 2006 by Stevenkray added substantial spam links to the article. I removed these today, and added some links which are in the reference section of Tin Foil Phoenix (TFP).  The support that he was a member of that band and discusses some other history of Kray.  As it stands I assume that TFP is notable since it has an article at WP.  Is Kray notable as a member of the band?  At minimum I see this as a redirect to TFP.  I will put a spam warnig at Kray's talk page.--Kevin Murray 22:54, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment If the article is kept, I think that most of the article should be trimmed to reflect the issues of notability, music, though what we did before and since is pertinent, but should not be prominent.--Kevin Murray 22:54, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
 *  Weak Keep or Strong Redirect per my comments above. --Kevin Murray 22:54, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Comments-I agree that a redirect to the band page is not a bad idea.. If someone felt like it, short bios on each of the members would be appropriate. I still hold that he is non-notable, and there has been too much promotion going on here and with related articles. Danski14 23:49, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I added a truncated version of the text to Tin Foil Phoenix. So lets redirect and blank this page --Kevin Murray 01:05, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, looks good, just have to wait until the discussion is closed. Danski14 03:00, 6 February 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.