Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stewart Rahr (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. joe deckertalk to me 16:18, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Stewart Rahr
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Not notable

This article was created by babasalichai and his myriad sockpuppets. Their mission in Wikipedia was to write laudations of clients of the 5W Public Relations firm. They have since been blocked, though they keep popping up with other usernames. Hard to keep up with them.

Stewart Rahr's claim to fame was that he was the owner and CEO of an independent pharmaceuticals wholesale company, Kinray, which is no longer independent, and which was never big when compared to the size of the pharmaceutical market in America. Aside from that, he is pretty rich. --Ravpapa (talk) 11:40, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - Notability not established. Most of the sources contain only passing or trivial mentions of Rahr or are press releases. Full disclosure: I was notified about this discussion on my talk page by Ravpapa. --Steven J. Anderson (talk) 12:26, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 20:08, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:34, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - Does not meet notability standards. --יום יפה (talk) 11:38, 5 April 2011 (UTC) blocked sockpuppet
 * Keep. Whatever the history of the article, it's not spammy now and he is clearly a notable person. This was kept just 6 months ago and nothing has changed the correctness of that result.  Notability is not temporary and he is still one of the world's richest men.  628 hits at GNews including some very recent ones.--Arxiloxos (talk) 14:26, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,   Wifione    .......  Leave a message  06:50, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak keep I'm not super-familiar with the official notability criteria for "rich guys" but it looks like the only issue here is that there isn't much to say about him. Everything in the article is pretty well-attested, and with his notability being sort of on the edge (the mentions in media do credit him with some Guinness-style "firsts" and "biggests") I think stare decisis is probably the way to go. Eco-Mono (talk) 02:15, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Checked the sources and it looks like there's a few articles in major news sources that are specifically (or at least majorly) about him rather than it being any kind of passing mention. On the other hand it may also be worth noting that he's practically an orphan, with the only content links to him being a school and a similarly orphaned real estate agent. Eco-Mono (talk) 02:24, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete Stewart Rahr is quite wealthy and something of a socialite, but I'm not sure if he's notable enough for a Wikipedia article. If the article contained a section on ridiculously unimportant trivia I might vote differently, or with strength. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.208.188.68 (talk) 14:57, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Keep Rahr clearly meets WP:BIO, having been the subject of several full writeups and significant mentions from The Wall Street Journal, Haute Living, Forbes, and The New York Times—  . Goodvac (talk) 17:54, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - easily passes WP:BIO, as shown by the sources in the article and linked above. Robofish (talk) 15:54, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep It is possible for even the client of a PR agency to be notable, and, based on the sources, he is.    DGG ( talk ) 06:46, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.