Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stini


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus.  Sandstein  18:45, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

Stini

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Non-notable band. No coverage, no fans. Fails WP:MUSICBIO and WP:SIGCOV.  scope_creep Talk  09:22, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 09:29, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Denmark-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 09:29, 28 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment. Er,, Stini is not a band. She's a female singer. And I don't understand what you mean by "no fans". How did you come to this conclusion, and why is it relevant?  Ss  112   10:11, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
 * The artist has no coverage on Instagram, Spotify, Youtube, Twitter, Soundcloud or Google generally. Some minor coverage relating to her first release but nothing else that can be called in-depth and intellectually independent.   scope_creep Talk  10:26, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep - On the basis of WP:GNG. Two major sources in the article from AllHipHop, a news release with details about Stini and an interview with her. There's also a short but non-trivial source from The Source, here, which discusses Stini's recent single release. I have also found this interview with Iggy Azalea - admittedly only a couple of brief comments but more than a passing mention. It's not loads but I think sufficient to establish notability. WJ94 (talk) 10:38, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
 * We are not on the basis of WP:GNG. We are using the notability criteria WP:MUSICBIO and WP:SIGCOV which is a higher standard of notability. The first is not in-depth, merely a name drop. The third one is an interview with Iggy Azalea that mentions Stini a couple of times and her plans to work with her. The second one is not much better.  scope_creep Talk  10:58, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Can you give me your views on this Afd please. I notice the singer is also using the Empire service. Thanks.  scope_creep Talk  11:11, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your response Scope Creep; however, I disagree. Firstly, WP:SIGCOV and WP:GNG are the same thing, so my !vote on the basis of GNG is a direct response to your claim regarding SIGCOV. Second, point 1 of WP:MUSICBIO is "Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself." This is basically a restatement of GNG (which implies that any music article which meets GNG automatically meets MUSICBIO too), and therefore my !vote implicitly responded to your point about MUSICBIO. WJ94 (talk) 11:41, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Also, I would kindly ask that your refrain from editing my comments, as you did here. You are welcome to disagree with me but please do not alter my comments. WJ94 (talk) 11:45, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Finally (sorry for the multiple posts), to respond to your evaluation of the sources I presented. The first is more than a name drop, and offers a number of details about Stini across two paragraphs. The second is a full length interview with an important music website. The third is admittedly smaller but I contend non-trivial news release from another important music website. And the fourth (the interview with Iggy Azalea) does only mention Stini a couple of times (on its own it wouldn't achieve GNG) but there are some comments about Stini that go beyond a passing mention (see the question "Aside from yourself, who are some females killing it in music?"). WJ94 (talk) 11:52, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi WJ94, I never altered your comments. I would never alter anybodies comment, ever.  scope_creep Talk  12:56, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi WJ94, Sorry about that. I think I must have meant to copy it, instead it's cut it.  scope_creep Talk  13:00, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: To get a clearer consensus
 * Comment The three supposed references are trivial and are indicative of a fail in WP:SIGCOV. The last is an announcement and is not worth talking about as its non-rs. The whole lot adds up to about 2-3 lines of A4. Hardly the in-depth required of a BLP.  scope_creep Talk  03:01, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Britishfinance (talk) 17:01, 5 November 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   12:34, 13 November 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment There is still not a whisper of coverage on this band in the almost three weeks it has been opened. On Youtube, she has "Stini 758 subscribers" for her song Proud. Nothing on any other social media channel.  She is signed to Bad Dreams Records which is off of Empire Distribution which is a self-distributor. So Bad Dreams Records is her own label, so she is not even signed. All indicative of a new singer with no coverage, no fans and not notable. Fails WP:MUSICBIO.    scope_creep Talk  11:36, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. Fails WP:NMUSIC and WP:SIGCOV. This is a case of WP:TOOSOON.4meter4 (talk) 02:04, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  NNADI GOOD LUCK  ( Talk &#124; Contribs ) 11:25, 21 November 2019 (UTC)


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