Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stockholm Resilience Centre


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Absent DGG's concerns, consensus is clearly to keep. (non-admin closure)  Onel 5969  TT me 01:41, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

Stockholm Resilience Centre

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The people who run the SRC seem to be notable people, but I can barely find any information about the org itself. Scant news hits, with content mainly being "said XYZ of the SRC." Everything else is just press releases and primary sources. Primefac (talk) 13:06, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 13:34, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Environment-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 13:34, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sweden-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 13:34, 28 April 2017 (UTC)


 * What exactly is the problem with this page? Is it a matter of needing to include non-primary sources?


 * I was told by Primefac that I could create another Stockholm Resilience Centre (SRC) wikipedia page as long as it abided to the rules of Wikipedia commons. I did just that and formatted the page following a pre-existing wikipedia page for the Stockholm Environment Institute (SEI) which is an associated organisation (according to wikipedia). I used exactly the same kind of primary sources as can be found on the SEI wikipedia page. It only makes sense that a page for the Stockholm Resilience Centre (SRC) exists.


 * Why is it that a Stockholm Environment Institute (SEI) page is able to exist and not one for the SRC in exactly the same format? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_Environment_Institute


 * It would be much appreciated it you could explain and justify your reasoning on this issue.


 * If you google the Stockholm Resilience Centre you come up with almost 5 420 results. This is not scant sourcing for the validity of the SRC's work. If you type Stockholm Resilience Centre into Google scholar you come up with over 41, 900 results: https://scholar.google.se/scholar?as_ylo=2017&q=Stockholm+Resilience+Centre&hl=en&as_sdt=0,5


 * Here is a brief selection of secondary sources which mention the Stockholm Resilience Centre:


 * https://www.pik-potsdam.de/news/in-short/making-the-planetary-boundaries-concept-work-conference-in-berlin
 * http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/synergy-the-driver-of-integrated-value-in-the-new_us_58e2682ee4b0ca889ba1a824
 * http://www.dn.se/kultur-noje/annica-kvint-framtidens-stader-har-hus-av-tra-och-grona-artarer-1/
 * https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/jan/15/rate-of-environmental-degradation-puts-life-on-earth-at-risk-say-scientists


 * There is plenty of secondary material and links out there to support the validation of this organisations and it's researchers work. Because of their obvious contribution to other wiki pages like Planetary Boundaries it seems to be a worthy organisation of it's own page.


 * I would like to stress again that the information presented on the page is purely factual information about this organisation, not promotion. If there is anyway to improve it to prevent it being deleted please let me know and I will do my best to improve it GriffithsHR (talk) 14:37, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Let's see, where to start.
 * Stockholm Environment Institute's existence falls under OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, i.e. just because one page exists doesn't mean we should have a second. Every page is treated on its own merits.
 * On that point, the SEI page is actually pretty terrible. Not sure if it could be deleted but it could definitely use cleanup.
 * You might get a lot of hits, but what do those references actually say? Do they talk about the SRC, or just mention it in passing due to the activities of one of its members?
 * The preceding point is valid for your four references - SRC isn't actually talked about. It is mentioned for hosting an event, defining a word, being in Stockholm, and giving someone a job, respectively.
 * While none of the coverage you listed is necessarily bad coverage, in order to demonstrate notability we need significant coverage of a group. I couldn't find any, which is why I nominated the page for deletion.
 * Also, for the record, I never told you to use primary sources. Not sure where you got that idea from. Primefac (talk) 14:51, 28 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep - article is as stated above in need of better sourcing. Not deletion. Sources are available.BabbaQ (talk) 23:59, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
 * , sources like...? Primefac (talk) 01:32, 3 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep - Eighteen other Wikipedia articles currently link to this article. It a key international sustainability research institution which, as BabbaQ says, needs better sourcing, not deleting. --Epipelagic (talk) 02:30, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Uncertain I think they are likely to be important, and I wish we had sources. Almost all the refsare just to people whowork there or are on the board, etc.; That 's the sort of derived notability that is only an indication, not evidence.  DGG ( talk ) 01:20, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Some sources:
 * "...highly performing institutions, such as... the Stockholm Resilience Centre... the centre generates new insights and ideas to improve eco-systems management practices and long-term sustainability." – OECD
 * "...advances the understanding of complex social-ecological systems and generates new and elaborated insights and means for the development of management and governance practices. The Centre advises policymakers from all over the world..." – Graduate School of Business, University of Cape Town
 * "... the study on the future development of EU policies to 2050 by... the Stockholm Resilience Centre... attempt[s] to detect environmental, economic, social and policy challenges that have a crucial meaning for reaching a sustainable path... The Stockholm Resilience Centre is a new international centre that advances transdisciplinary research for governance of social-ecological systems..." – European Sustainable Development Network
 * "...advances research on the governance of social-ecological systems with a special emphasis on resilience..." – Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences
 * "...leading the charge to put global development on a sustainable footing... It is interdisciplinary, bringing together the expertise of researchers in all disciplines with something to add to research into The centre uses its research to advise policymakers from around the world on ways to put development on a more sustainable footing." – Stockholm University
 * "...a joint effort of the Stockholm University, the Beijer Institute of the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences and the Stockholm Environment Institute that now pool their competences, international networks and collaborators to further the advancement of interdisciplinary science for sustainability. ...The Stockholm Resilience Centre will continuously advice policy makers nationally, in Europe and internationally, and develop innovative collaboration with relevant actors from local social-ecological systems to the global policy arena." – Swedish Foundation for Strategic Environmental Research
 * "... an international interdisciplinary centre for research into socioecological systems, i.e. systems where mankind and nature are studied as an integrated whole. The focus is on the resilience of systems — their ability to cope with change and to be developed further. The aim is to contribute new insights and tools that permit ecosystem service production that is sustainable in the long term, and stronger resilience for human welfare." – Swedish Royal Court
 * -- Epipelagic (talk) 08:22, 4 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep - highly important and notable organisation, having organised the Planetary Boundaries group. See also articles such https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/scientists-human-activity-has-pushed-earth-beyond-four-of-nine-planetary-boundaries/2015/01/15/f52b61b6-9b5e-11e4-a7ee-526210d665b4_story.html, https://scripps.ucsd.edu/news/earth-has-crossed-several-planetary-boundaries-thresholds-human-induced-environmental-changes However, this is a scientific networking organisation, so the list of members is relevant. --Vigilius (talk) 12:25, 7 May 2017 (UTC)


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