Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stone Bank Volunteer Fire Department


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The result was   merge to Oconomowoc (town), Wisconsin. ( X! ·  talk )  · @228  · 04:28, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Stone Bank Volunteer Fire Department

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Non-notable local fire department, deprodded by a suspected sock of user:azviz, and then edited by legit editor User:The Anome, who added a couple of references demonstrating that the deptatment does the usual things fire departments do, such as putting out fires, getting a new building, and practicing putting out fires. Still not notable. Abductive (talk) 22:33, 1 July 2009 (UTC)


 * The article passes the letter of the WP:V and WP:RS policies, with even a very cursory search showing at least three local newspaper articles that directly describe its activities, and is therefore notable. It is mentioned in passing by many more: see Given that it passes the letter of our policies, and that it's a 100-year old volunteer organization, I think this is a keep. -- The Anome (talk) 22:37, 1 July 2009 (UTC), updated 22:49, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * That looked scary, and I thought, how could I have overlooked all those Google News hits, but then I put quotes around the search term, then not so much. As I said in another deletion discussion, in many countries, fire departments are large and few in number, which would lead some users here to believe that all fire departments ought to be notable. But in the US, fire departments are often very small. This one is a volunteer department. Abductive (talk) 22:43, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I would change my mind if reliable sources that discuss the organization as an entity (rather than its day-to-day putting out fires, which I view as a news item about a fire) could be found. Abductive (talk) 23:04, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep, all departments are in some ways notable as long as they aren't a business corporation. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 01:04, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Profoundly not true. Abductive (talk) 01:05, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Wisconsin-related deletion discussions.  -- TexasAndroid (talk) 01:22, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions.  -- TexasAndroid (talk) 01:22, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 *  Delete  Merge to Jclemens suggestion. Local papers have to cover local news. That doesn't say notability to me. Nom is correct.....they simply do what fire depts. do. Nothing notable about that. Niteshift36 (talk) 05:30, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment: policy only requires multiple independent reliable sources, without any requirement that those sources be of national or global scope -- local papers are just as reliable as national ones. -- The Anome (talk) 13:14, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * That's true. But I'll repeat an example I used before. I know a part-time mayor of a 1,500 resident town. There are 3 newspapers serving that area (one daily, one 4 times a week and a weekly paper). His actions, of course, are covered by all 3 (multiple, independent reliable sources). By applying the standard the way you want me to read it, this man should pass notability. Do you honestly think that would be what belongs in this encyclopedia? Niteshift36 (talk) 15:34, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * What is the claim to notability? Abductive (talk) 13:17, 2 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Merge to its parent municipality per Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Fire_Service. Claim to notability for fire departments is much the same as for cities and municipalities, but if there's not enough independent RS coverage, departments should be covered in the article of the jurisdiction they protect and serve. Jclemens (talk) 16:19, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * That seems fair to me. Changing my opinion to merge per Jclemens' argument above. -- The Anome (talk) 22:34, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * One comment-if you do merge this article with its parent municipality-please do it with the town of Oconomowoc and not the city of Oconomowoc. The fire department said it services the towns of Merton&Oconomowoc.I made the change in the article itself.Thank you-RFD (talk) 23:38, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.