Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Strange Celebrity


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. Mark Arsten (talk) 01:28, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Strange Celebrity

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Does not appear to meet WP:BAND although two members have articles, Gibson's is tenuous. Walter Görlitz (talk) 01:30, 21 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep I contested nominator's PROD and added several sources prior to the start of the AfD. The band's album was well covered by Christian media outlets upon its release, and received a smattering of attention in secular media as well. Chubbles (talk) 17:00, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment The Christianity Today article is substantial coverage. None of the others are. Some are reviews of their album, but don't discuss the band itself. The latter is required. An album can be notable while its creators may not be. However, the band's notability may follow. See WP:BAND and WP:NALBUMS for the musical notability criteria and WP:GNG for general. Walter Görlitz (talk) 17:29, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment This is a common mistake that used to plague band deletion discussions. Coverage of a band's album is still substantial coverage of that artist, just as, say, a book review stands as substantial coverage for an author rather than simply the book itself. It would make vanishingly little sense to create an article on a "notable album" by a "non-notable band" and not have an article for the band itself. In such cases, most of the time, the opposite would be much more desirable (covering the artist as the article subject and leaving the album information interpolated in the band's page). With the album reviews standing as coverage of the band, WP:BAND bullet 1 is met in this case (along with the substantial Christianity Today and AMG coverage). Chubbles (talk) 20:36, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 09:04, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Tennessee-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 09:04, 22 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Weak keep - while I applaud Chubbles' efforts in finding sources, a band that only releases one album, even if it was on Squint Entertainment / Warner Brothers Records, is not considered inherently notable per WP:NMUSIC (for which you need either two albums or the album to chart), and the remainder of the coverage, while extensive, is not over a particularly long enough range to really stand out. However, having Tracy Ferrie as a member does take it out the realm of typical WP:GARAGE bands, so I think there's just about enough to scrape WP:GNG. Ritchie333  (talk)  (cont)   15:01, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Lankiveil (speak to me) 04:40, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 00:42, 11 November 2013 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.