Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stripping the Gurus: Sex, Violence, Abuse and Enlightenment

 This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was DELETE. -Splash talk 01:02, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

Stripping the Gurus: Sex, Violence, Abuse and Enlightenment
Non-notable ebook. 144 Google hits. The author admits in his 26 Aug 05 blog entry to anonymously spamming Wikipedia in order to promote book. See further discussion at my talk page. --goethean &#2384; 15:53, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Sorry... I see a lot of angry stuff on that page, a good deal of vitriol thrown at Wikipedia in general and goethean in particular... but which, exactly is the passage that you says is an admission of "spamming Wikipedia?" Dpbsmith (talk) 00:24, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
 * (Those are all links to free information on the Internet. And he doesn't even know that it was me that put them there! All that's given to identify the user who added the information is the IP address of his/her computer! So how can he call it "self-promotional"? What a beautiful example of "democratic censorship"! Granted, it's unlikely that anyone else but me would have placed all of those relevant links to my own free online content there; but you never know, and you certainly don't know enough there to go whole-hog on the censorship thing.) What he (and several other comparable fools) have done, in fact, is to systematically go down the entire list of the three dozen or so edits I made yesterday, and remove every one of them.
 * This, combined with, a series of edits placing a link to his website/ebook on each related article, I call spam/ads/self-promotion. Mass linking like this has happened before, and it is definitely frowned upon, and in my experience reverted. --goethean &#2384; 17:32, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Sure. Most Wikipedians remove suspected linkspam on sight. The point I wanted to pin down is this. I read your original comment to mean that he acknowledged that the creation of this article was a conscious act of self-promotion. That's not quite true. He acknowledges systematically linkspamming Wikipedia, but does not actually acknowledge that this article is spam. Dpbsmith (talk) 23:54, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
 * I don't actually believe that the author of the ebook created the article. But I do believe that it was created by a WP user due to the linkspam. A WP user followed the links and decided to write an article about the ebook. --goethean &#2384; 19:40, 11 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Delete. Al 16:21, September 7, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Admitted advertising. Fernando Rizo T/C 17:12, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete No brainer, maybe speedy Molotov (talk) [[Image:Flag of California.svg|25px]] 19:10, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
 * delete spam spam spam spam I don't like spam spam spam spam spam. Sabine's Sunbird 02:08, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Non-notable book. Advertising. My personal criterion is that a book cannot be considered notable unless it has an Amazon sales rank of less than 200,000. (Amazon lists everything in Books in Print). This book isn't even listed by Amazon. Or by Barnes and Noble. Not under title, not under author, and not under ISBN 0973620331 (the ISBN listed on the website). "Million Monkeys Press" appears to have published exactly one title at the present time. This "press" does not even have a merchant account with the credit card companies; it only accepts payment via PayPal. It is possible that the "book" exists only as a PDF file. Dpbsmith (talk) 00:18, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
 * delete not a notable book (yet) . Andries 14:41, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
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