Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Structure of the Belgian Armed Forces in 1989


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Vanamonde (Talk) 02:59, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Structure of the Belgian Armed Forces in 1989

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Lacks notability. The sources are either not independent, not reliable (alterfritz?), or not about 1989. Fram (talk) 09:42, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. Fram (talk) 09:42, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. Fram (talk) 09:42, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Belgium-related deletion discussions. Fram (talk) 09:42, 10 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete largely unreferenced and nothing showing the notability of 1989 for the Belgian Armed Forces. Mztourist (talk) 10:48, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep: Article meets WP:CLN WP:AOAL for keeping a list. 1989 is a major milestone year in the Cold War. Per CLN "Deleting these rudimentary lists is a waste of these building blocks"  // Timothy ::  talk  04:30, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * No-one disputes that 1989 was a major milestone year in the Cold War, but that is irrelevant. There is nothing that shows the notability of 1989 for the Belgian Armed Forces. Mztourist (talk) 05:16, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Belgium is a part of NATO, the end of the Cold War impacted all NATO nations militaries.  // Timothy ::  talk  05:45, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * All of which falls under the Cold War and NATO, there is nothing that shows the significance of 1989 for the Belgian Armed Forces. Mztourist (talk) 11:29, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * The Belgian Armed Forces participated in the Cold War and were a core member of NATO; they were not bystanders but active participants. A war ending is a significant milestone for an involved military. The end of a war will result in significant changes for a military force.  // Timothy ::  talk  12:56, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Obviously there was no actual war and this page doesn't say anything about the impact of the end of the Cold War on the Belgian forces. This is a snapshot without any underlying context. Mztourist (talk) 07:59, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * For the umpteenth time, CLN AOAL doesn't give a free pass to ignore WP:N, it doesn't deal with this. All it says is that "delete this list because we have a category for it" (or vice versa) is not a good argument; but no one is making that argument, and having a category for the Belgian army in 1989 would be an equally bad idea. Fram (talk) 09:02, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   20:38, 17 December 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete - Non-notable. Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:14, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 01:25, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - Notability for this genre of military article seems to rely on ludicrous daisy chain of notability. This one is no different and no real argument has been made for why the exact structure of the Belgian army is specifically notable in this specific year. Just because it's part of an alliance that was notable doesn't confer said notability on every component part of that alliance. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 01:55, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:INDISCRIMINATE and failure to meet either WP:LISTN or WP:GNG. As with many other discussions, there is nothing about the makeup of this particular army in this particular year that is notable enough to merit a standalone article.  C Thomas3   (talk) 19:19, 25 December 2020 (UTC)


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