Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stuart Angel


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   No Consensus, default to keep Notability is on the fence, but there's enough doubt in this discussion to not delete.Mike Cline (talk) 16:20, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Stuart Angel

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Thousands of people are killed by repressive regimes all the time. There is nothing here to indicate why this person is more notable than any other victim, other than that he had a famous mother. My repeated requests for proof of notability have been rebuffed. Woogee (talk) 22:41, 19 February 2010 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Tim Song (talk) 03:25, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Brazil-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:37, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:37, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep at worst Merge A google book search indicates that there are several books mentioning this person. He was member of a terrorist group which kidnapped a US ambassador . At best this a merge to the article of his mother.--Stone (talk) 10:20, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  C T J F 8 3  chat 09:41, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete mere mention is not significant coverage. Why redirect to his mother's article? He does appear in the film Zuzu Angel about his mother, but is not a significant part of it, nor is the film at all accurate. See the cited blog reference. --Bejnar (talk) 05:08, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Delete Most of the sources cited make only minor reference to him in the course of articles about other subjects. One of them is a blog, in which he is mentioned several times in posts by members of the public responding to the headline posting, but not in that headline posting. None of them constitutes substantial coverage in reliable sources. Stone, the only editor arguing for a keep, says "A google book search indicates that there are several books mentioning this person", and gives one link to one book which mentions him once in the whole book. As Bejnar says, mere mention is not enough. Nobody, including Stone, has shown evidence that any book (or anything else) gives substantial coverage. JamesBWatson (talk) 12:48, 5 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment secondthirdfourth there might be others. --Stone (talk) 16:25, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Was the point of those links to show that he has been referred to and so must be notable? If so, each one of them is a brief passing mention. If that is the best that can be achieved it is an indication of lack of notability. JamesBWatson (talk) 11:06, 12 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep since it apparently became the basis of a notable film.    DGG ( talk ) 05:47, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, DGG can usually be relied on to support "keep". However: (1) Is the film notable? I see no evidence that it is. (2) Even if the film is slightly notable, how far is the notability of the film reflected back on the Stuart Angel? JamesBWatson (talk) 11:06, 12 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep per User: Stone and User: DGG. The media coverage and film indicate notability.-- Pink Bull  15:29, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete: passing mentions (even in books) do not confer notability in a Wikipedia sense, which requires significant coverage. Even if the film is notable, there is no evidence that this person is. -- Big  Dom  18:18, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge to Zuzu Angel. Judging from the material I've seen (most of it in Portuguese), this poor kid's death is one event. However, the quantity of material (dozens of Google Books, News and Scholar hits) suggests to me that it would be hasty to delete. The Zuzu Angel article says that she "became famous for opposing the Brazilian military dictatorship after the forced disappearance of her son Stuart". Yet that article doesn't go into any detail about her son's death. I hope that the material is merged to make two weak articles on these inextricably linked subjects into one strong, cohesive article. Abductive  (reasoning) 12:12, 13 March 2010 (UTC)


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