Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stuart Styron (2nd nomination)

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Mojo Hand (talk) 05:13, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

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Stuart Styron
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This article has been speedy deleted twice and been the subject of a previous AfD discussion (Articles for deletion/Stuart Styron) that closed as Delete. Right now, the article is in worse shape than in 2014 and the original reasons apply: Non-notable as actor, musician, or artist. I have suggested to the article creator that the article be userfied but they insist on recreating the article. Liz Read! Talk! 16:26, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
 * It looks like much of the copy of the article is taken from his Facebook biography. Liz  Read! Talk! 19:39, 2 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete This looks better than the one I speedied, but I don't think the author has grasped the idea of notability and reliable independent referencing yet. (I did try explaining after receiving a somewhat aggressive message from the author - which didn't worry me, even though it accused me of being aggressive...). I too suggested Draft:space or user space but was ignored. Peridon (talk) 18:00, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Question for an admin: How does Draft:Stuart Styron compare with the 2014 version? -- Finngall  talk  18:02, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Finngall, that draft article is sparse on notability but at least it is original content rather than being cribbed from his Facebook About page. Liz  Read! Talk!</b> 19:41, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Hello Finngall, Peridon and Liz  <sup style="font-family:Times New Roman;"><b style="color:#006400;">Read!</b> <b style="color:#006400;">Talk!</b> I should apologize some reactions from the last 2 days. Before I decided to work very seriously on the article, I could imagine how hard it gonna will be. But hard attacking every hour from everyone to delete the article, because of the "disasters", "Speedy deletetes" from the past (for example) is not acceptable. It`s now 1 year left and a new chance for a new article is absolutly okay. With a negative energy going through from the first minute is not professional and against Wikipedia rules. I even not starting with the text and all of you starting attacking. So, i must react in the same form to get attention that I am serious in what I`m doing. I know there is an option however it is, that Stuart Styron should placed here on wikipedia. It is just a question of finding the right elements. "Living people" or "artist" or "musician" or "actor" should be checked cleary, I know that now, but it`s not easy. He is a musician and an actor, he already study all in all for many years, but if it`s not notable, that`s fine, but we should find a middle way to describe his work and engagement. Kicking him out with all your hearts is a mistake. Whatever, now the site looks much better and i still working on it. If you want to help in some points, that would be fine. I would be thankfull for every positive advice and enthusiasm. Ulla1956 20:35, 3 November 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ulla1956 (talk • contribs) Hello Finngall, Peridon and Liz  <sup style="font-family:Times New Roman;"><b style="color:#006400;">Read!</b> <b style="color:#006400;">Talk!</b> Can someone check the work I did, please? There are many changes since you nominated the article for deletion. Thank you. Ulla1956 02:05, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
 * <small class="delsort-notice">Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. — UY Scuti  <sup style="color:green; font-family:Times;">Talk  21:06, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
 * <small class="delsort-notice">Note: This debate has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. — UY Scuti  <sup style="color:green; font-family:Times;">Talk  21:06, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
 * <small class="delsort-notice">Note: This debate has been included in the list of Arts-related deletion discussions. — UY Scuti  <sup style="color:green; font-family:Times;">Talk  21:06, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — UY Scuti <sup style="color:green; font-family:Times;">Talk  21:06, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete for now as I see nothing to suggest a currently better article. Notifying past AfD commenters and .  SwisterTwister   talk  06:35, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete same lack of notability for each possibility as per my prev AfD, combined with aggressive promo activity from this new WP:SPA User:Ulla1956. Here's the prev Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard/Archive_80,  Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard/Archive 79 (it's not clear to me if this was part of the sockfarm Bert Martinez, or what looks like separate autobiography promo that got caught up in it. There are several new accounts now, all promo, listed at Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard, Sockpuppet_investigations/Hollenderek.  Widefox ; talk 14:48, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment Promo socks blocked User:Hollenderek User:Botamy007 Widefox ; talk 23:58, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Note to closer Draft deleted promo / blocked editors, suggest closing (as SNOW). Widefox ; talk 13:39, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete Not notable --Ita140188 (talk) 08:19, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - fails GNG —Мандичка YO 😜 13:17, 12 November 2015 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.