Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Student Youth Network (2nd nomination)


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The result was   keep. JForget 00:23, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Student Youth Network
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non notable school activity, fails WP:CORP, sources are self-published so fail RS, deleted once before, if anything, should only be a minor paragraph in hosting university Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 04:58, 19 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep. School activity? Did you read the article? It's a widely-listened to university radio and (in conjunction with others) TV station. Rebecca (talk) 05:55, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, I did, else I would not have nominated it.--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 06:19, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Your description of SYN FM as a 'non-notable school activity' strongly suggests otherwise. - AmishThrasher (talk) 15:47, 1 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Weak delete Not familiar with the subject but am tempted to think a bit of hard work could save this, especially if 80,000 listeners claim is legit. The number alone, though, does not make it notable and there's no source to back it up - the source cited is about radio listeners generally (it would seem; it doesn't link properly). Stalwart111 (talk) 11:29, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
 * According to the State Government of Victoria's Department of Employment and Department of Youth Affairs, 124,000 people over 15 listen to the Station each week across the Melbourne metropolitan area, "a core audience of 41,000 young people who mentioned unprompted that they “regularly listen to” SYN, and a further 84,000 (3%) who mentioned after prompting that they have listened to the station in the last seven days" according to a ratings survey. - AmishThrasher (talk) 15:44, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Vote change / Keep. There you go; exactly the sort of thing I was talking about. Nice work. Happy to change my vote. Thanks, Stalwart111 (talk) 23:38, 1 August 2010 (UTC).


 * Notable article: SYN is one of Australia's largest youth media organisations. It may be a subsidiary of the RMIT Student Union, but its range is not limited to just "school activity" - it broadcasts across metropolitan Melbourne, not just RMIT, and its membership is also open to those outside of RMIT as well. Also, a number of Australian media personalities started their careers (or have contributed) to SYN, including Hamish & Andy - who both began their careers on the SYN show Radio Karate. NouvelleAuteur (talk) 01:49, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Very strong keep with an added 'You obviously don't live in Melbourne I take it?!' SYN-FM, the radio station of the Student Youth Network, has been discussed in a number of article's in The Age such as this one and this one and one about how former Federal Treasurer Peter Costello's son Seb is a broadcaster at the Station and around 175 other articles according to Google. It has also been discussed on a number of ABC shows such as this one and in the Herald Sun as well. Similarly, they also get recognition from the Community Broadcasting Association of Australia amongst other Community Broadcasting sector bodies, and the station has also been referenced in the respected news-magazine Arena here and the news site Crikey when discussing community broadcasting in Melbourne. The station is further referenced in Australia's national broadsheet The Australian in this article. Of course, being a popular ABA licensed community radio station aimed at (and presented by) people under 26 years old, and broadcasts across the Melbourne Metropolitan area (i.e. it's clearly not just a campus station as you imply!) it should come as little surprise that there is no shortage of news articles discussing the station. Given a key criteria of WP:CORP is that "An organization is generally considered notable if it has been the subject of significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources... A company, corporation, organization, school, team, religion, group, product, or service is notable if it has been the subject of significant coverage in secondary sources. Such sources must be reliable, and independent of the subject." Your assertion that this coverage has been "self published" is utterly laughable! (Rupert Murdoch who owns The Australian and the Herald Sun via News Limited and News Corp is certainly not an under 26 year old volunteer at SYN, and I would suggest that Fairfax Media owners of The Age somehow being SYN volunteers is almost as absurd!) Given notability can easily be established, please stop wasting our time! - AmishThrasher (talk) 15:21, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:04, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
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