Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stygia (Conan)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep and merge to Hyborian Age. lifebaka++ 17:51, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Stygia (Conan)

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Non-notable, long unreferenced fictional geographic location, suggest deletion, Sadads (talk) 11:36, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 20:46, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Redirect Stygia (Conan) and Stygia to Hyborian Age. Plausible search term, and Robert E. Howard's fictional universe has enough notability (e.g. multiple derivatives works of fiction, from books, graphic novels, movies to TV series to computer games have made use of it) for its own article (though it could certainly use more sources).--70.80.234.196 (talk) 00:16, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment should probably redirect to the disambiguation page Stygian. 65.93.15.80 (talk) 05:45, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - I disagree. Stygian was and is still barely a disambiguation page (I had to add Stygian Cove to give it more than one link with the word "Stygian" in it, and and the Graeae, aka the Stygian Witches of Clash of the Titans, to pad it some more). There are few actual articles that link to Stygian or Stygia. There are, however, many links to Stygia (Conan). The only non-Conan link to Stygia is at Glasya and refers to the Dungeons and Dragons layer of Hell which doesn't have its own article. The Glasya article itself does not pass any notability guideline and is about some obscure D&D non-player character, and the Stygia it meant to link to does not deserve mention in any disambiguation page. All in all, the only "Stygia" that has more than two links in the Wikipedia mainspace is the Conan one, thus Stygia should redirect to whereever Stygia (Conan) will be redirecting.--70.80.234.196 (talk) 23:36, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I suggest a merge rather than an outright deletion. Hyborian Age, as suggested above, would be a good target to merge it to. —Paul A (talk) 03:28, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep: Stygia is a major nation within the fictional Hyborian world. Its geography and politics are extremely influential in many, if not most, of the Conan stories. The subject needs to be expanded, and the article needs better sourcing, but that is not a reason to delete. Dolovis (talk) 15:53, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Currently there is nothing in the article that suggests that the sources exist or that even there is enouhgh useful information to keep it as a seperate article. If we want we can certainly merge it into the main Conan Universe page, Sadads (talk) 16:08, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - I have to agree with this assessment. I really wanted to say keep myself but looking for sources, I couldn't find anything of significance. I really thought it wouldn't be hard to find some scholarly articles about Robert E. Howard's fictional universe but it proved to be surprisingly difficult. As per WP:V, without explicit sources, it's not worth a separate article at the moment, so the most logical course of action is to work on improving Hyborian Age until there's enough sourced material to warrant a split.--70.80.234.196 (talk) 23:32, 2 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Redirect and merge content to Hyborian Age, seems like a fine idea. SchmuckyTheCat (talk)


 * Delete The topic does not meet the criteria of the general notability guideline since it is not covered in detail in reliable third-party sources, the article has zero reliable sources so it does not have verifiability to check notability, it is mostly a plot-only description of a fictional work and an unnecessary content fork. Jfgslo (talk) 15:47, 9 February 2011 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.