Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Su Su Su Super Ki Re i


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. In the sense of "not delete"; AfD is not the forum for proposing or discussing redirections or mergers. Use the article talk page for that.  Sandstein  06:14, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Su Su Su Super Ki Re i

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Recently blanked and redirected by TenPoundHammer with the comment "not notable". However our policy is that we decide such things by consensus, not the actions of a single editor. Accordingly I bring this (and the other album articles) to AfD - although I have no personal opinion either way. Andy Dingley (talk) 20:48, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Redirect, only charted very low in Japan with little to no sourcing. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 21:46, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep. As the article says, where only 20 or so singles by foreign artists reached the Top 20 between 1995 and 2003. That makes it notable. Actually Tenpounder didn't blank the page, he redirected, which is in accordance with WP:SONGS which says, Most songs do not rise to notability for an independent article and should redirect to another relevant article. --Richhoncho (talk) 18:54, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 00:55, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 00:56, 9 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment. FYI, here is a link that confirms its chart position on Oricon, the main Japanese chart. Given that "Songs that have been ranked on national or significant music charts" is one criterion for notability at WP:NSONG (but not a sufficient one)--without specifying what level of ranking--one would assume no. 16 is not a problem. I have not yet found a source to confirm the claim "only 20 or so singles by foreign artists reached the Top 20 between 1995 and 2003," though having long lived in Japan, and knowing how few foreign records chart on the main Japanese charts, I would not be surprised if it is true. Michitaro (talk) 01:29, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:39, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BusterD (talk) 12:10, 21 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep and speedy close. This is a discussion over the suitability of a redirect vs an independent article, which is not an AFD matter. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 01:18, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.