Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SubGenius Networks

SubGenius Networks was proposed for deletion. This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was DELETE. 14 votes to delete, 1 vote to keep (anon vote was page author, so vote counted). Postdlf 07:16, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)

SubGenius Networks
A nonexistant site which is fighting over the use of the name? RickK 05:52, Oct 20, 2004 (UTC)
 * I see no potential to become encyclopedic, delete &mdash; siro  &chi;  o  06:04, Oct 20, 2004 (UTC)


 * KEEP: Currently: SubGenius Networks is NOT accepting public traffic; hence the no public site/index.html at SubGeniusNetworks.org. It seems the OVERPOP (and .com Bobbies) are targeting members of our organization independently (as we are currently defending ourselves from the Foundations illegal use of the trademark process). 24.254.56.98 06:38, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Wikipedia is not a web directory, not even for (most) public sites, much less for private ones. This is also not the forum for you to defend your trademarks or gabble about your particular organizational POV. jni 07:12, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Ad. utcursch 11:32, Oct 20, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete, promotional. No evidence of significant notability presented. An attempt to use WIkipedia draw attention to an organization and to promote a specific point of view. No potential to become encyclopedic. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 12:22, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Non-notable, and no potential to become encyclopedic, like User:Siroxo said. Nadavspi 15:00, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete: Ad. Bob would be disappointed. Geogre 15:03, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete with the Stark Fist of Removal. Not a web directory. Fnord. --Improv 20:11, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Improv's vote terrifies me, somehow. But I'm forced to agree. 'Delete. DS 22:07, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Non-notable.  &mdash; Dan | Talk 21:48, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * KEEP - i do understand the sentiments; however 'SUBGENIUS' currently FORWARDS TO 'Church of the SubGenius' and displays the SubGenius Foundations Trademark 'the dobbshead'. This is NOT representative of SubGenius Networks so the 'SubGenius_Networks' entry was created to settle a 'disambig' issue between organizations. CONFUSION between organizations is grounds for objection to current 'Church' trademark intentions. SubGenius Networks IS NOT the Church of the SubGenius, nor a part of the SubGenius Foundation. Our intention was to disambig the entry 'SUBGENIUS' as SubGenius Networks claims fair use and public domain rights. SUBGENIUS DOES NOT SIMPLIFY to 'Church', SUBGENIUS is a way of life. "Bob" be damned if he dosen't dig it - This entry was not created to advertise the network, only explain the fundamental difference. (NO CHURCH/NO BOB). 24.254.56.98 00:20, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Neutral: why exactly could not this Subgenius schism be covered at "Church of the SubGenius"? -- Jmabel | Talk 02:31, Oct 21, 2004 (UTC)
 * RESPONSE: Because we are NOT a 'church' related Slack institute. We're NOT faith based at all. It's NOT about "Bob" in the slightest. "Bob" is a trademark of the SubGenius Foundation, Inc. That is precisely why we also insist on a [disambig] entry for SUBGENIUS and not auto forwarding to 'Church of the' SubGenius. 'The Church of the SubGenius has a whole category. We only wish to clarify the distinction between organizations. SUBGENIUS is a Public Domain ideology based on Slack and "Bob" is a privately held and trademarked diety owned by another organization who DOES NOT REPRESENT SubGenius Networks. 24.254.56.98 03:43, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete, not notable, suggest you work on the www.subgeniusnetworks.org website since it currently contains less useful information than this (one sentence) Wikipedia article. &mdash;Stormie 03:27, Oct 21, 2004 (UTC)
 * Response: Yeah 'thank's for the suggestion. Our site is just a web server which may or may not be even online from month to month. The organization is a real life entity. 24.254.56.98 03:43, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete the heretics! :) Sjc 05:12, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * DWolfman 03:23, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * DD This is in such dire need of deletion that my vote just increased by a whole cup size. Chris 01:14, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete obnoxious advertising. He tried whining to wikien-l too. - David Gerard 07:20, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete: Not notable. Sillydragon 07:34, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Comment 24.254.56.98 take note: NSK (nsk2@wikinerds.org) has stated that Wikinerds, an all-encompassing "knowledge base" rather than an encyclopedia, is interested in having all VfD-ed articles resubmitted to them. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 16:34, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)

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