Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sub focus


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was Delete Stifle 23:48, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Sub focus
Three albums on an indie label, but it doesn't look like a notable one thus not meeting WP:MUSIC. Plus the text's purely promotional. Daniel Case 05:38, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

He is a prominent figure within the drum n' bass subculture however, and fulfils many of the criteria for "performers outside of mass media" under WP:MUSIC. Agreed that the text is too promotional though. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.173.155.74 (talk • contribs).
 * User's first and only edit. Daniel Case 17:50, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
 * sorry if that somehow invalidates what I was trying to say, I simply noticed I could add my viewpoint to this page so I did.

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I have no promotional interest in his music. I'm simply a fan who finds his music to be quite impressive at this point. DNB artists that achieve great commercial success and almost a universal acclaim from dnb pundits is a pretty rare thing, and he's been achieving that lately. I tried to be as objective as possible in the description of the music, pointing out some elements that people might not outright like about his music. But once again, I have no promotional connection at all. I see tons of wikipedia artist profiles that are way more in love with the content than this one.

Also, I just edited the "future music" section so it sounds less promotional and more...constructive. hope that helps this a bit.

-Sianspheric
 * Vote discounted as added by an unregistered user. Stifle 23:48, 19 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Weak delete as nn -- getcrunk   juice  contribs 17:43, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete no evidence of notability presented.  OhNo itsJamie Talk 22:56, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

It's kind of hard to present notability because the media existing to judge an artists notability or notoriety within drum and bass, is usually all web-based. But judging from his record sales within the genre, and judging from the response from followers of the sub-culture on the two main web outlets, dogsonacid.com and breakbeat.co.uk, he is probably the most quick selling, and one of the most respected popular artists within the genre right now. Unfortunately with drum and bass, there arent many mainstream media outlets that I can refer to his notability such as there is within pop music. -Sianspheric


 * Delete nn --Khoikhoi 02:03, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Sad to see that DNB gets no credibility on Wikipedia... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fuzzt (talk • contribs)


 * Seems notable enough to me. 7 records released, 105,000 Google hits for the exact string "sub focus", the first 8 or so pages-worth of Google hits are almost exclusively about the artist in question. Keep -- The Anome 00:07, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:MUSIC. Stifle 23:50, 13 March 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.