Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Submachine 3: The Loop


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The result was   redirect to Submachine (series). Any content that needs to be merged to the series' article can be recovered from history. ☺ ·  Salvidrim!   ·  &#9993;  17:13, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Submachine 3: The Loop

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The Submachine (series) article is sufficient for Wikipedia. The Submachine Wiki at Wikia has an article on this game; Wikipedia doesn't need one. Any objections to deleting?? Georgia guy (talk) 23:38, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 01:29, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Games-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:29, 14 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Why would a redirect not be enough? Hobit (talk) 14:35, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Why would anyone expect an actual article on this individual game?? I'm sure an article about the series is sufficient for Wikipedia. A re-direct would suggest that it's likely people would predict an article about the individual game. Georgia guy (talk) 14:42, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, there is one now, so whoever wrote it seemed to think it would be reasonable. So seems likely others would.  The bar for a redirect is pretty low. Hobit (talk) 22:00, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
 * If your only problem is that another wiki already covers it, then why not delete anything to do with Marvel comics (The Marvel Comic database already covers them, after all) for example? Why doesn't Wikipedia need an article? --Skamecrazy123 (talk) 23:35, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Keep - To add to what I said above, there is no guideline based reason not to keep it. "I want this deleted because it's already somewhere else" just doesn't cut it, in my opinion. If anyone can provide a guideline based reason to remove it, then I will change my vote accordingly. --Skamecrazy123 (talk) 18:30, 16 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete (redirect) as not passing WP:GNG with multiple independent reliable in-depth sources, such as WP:VG/RS. I see mentions or very short reviews, mostly discussed in context of series, but no in-depth sources to establish WP:NOTINHERITED individual notability. Re nominator's rationale: being on Wikia or having series article is of course not a reason to delete. Merging to series article would make sense if there was too little content here. Also, a redirect doesn't need to have the page to be a potential article, just a search target. — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 19:04, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I also nominated Submachine 4: The Lab for the same reason. — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 19:20, 17 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment - I'd be wary of applying NOTINHERITED too broadly especially in the area of subjects only discussed in context with other subjects, but I haven't looked at any of the sources yet since I have no time at present. If all of the RS coverage is really very insubstantial, though, then this is reason enough to find that it fails to meet the GNG threshold. I'll trust Hellknowz' judgment, but I'd recommend a vote to merge rather than delete. -Thibbs (talk) 20:50, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.