Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Suburban Secrets


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The result was keep. Star  Mississippi  02:02, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

Suburban Secrets

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12 results on ProQuest, all of which are merely passing mentions. All results on newspapers.com were TV Guide listings. Zero hits on Google News. Prod contested.

Opposing a redirect so that the title can be cleared out for Suburban Secrets (film) if the TV show is deleted. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 18:23, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 18:23, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.  The review notes: "However, the myth remains that the suburbs are totally safe - which clearly is the, er, motive behind Court TV's new "Suburban Secrets." In this latest take on the tried and true crime genre, the producers dig up (not literally) the real people who were involved in crimes that shocked the suburban communities in which they took place. So far, so good. But then "Suburban Secrets" drifts off into a format so dumb it's criminal. The real people, for reasons I hope never to understand, reenact the parts they played in solving the real crime, or worse, are made to have these bogus conversations with one another that ring as phony as the media whores who are increasingly allowed to waste our time on "American Idol.""  The article notes: ""Desperate Housewives" may have lost a bit of its luster, but it still inspires imitators. The new 15-episode true-crime series "Suburban Secrets" (10 p.m., Court TV) features an unseen female narrator with a droll delivery and a credit sequence that hints at the graphic techniques of the show set on Wisteria Lane. But after this slick teaser, "Secrets" settles down to a standard investigative procedural, not unlike A&E's old standby "City Confidential."" Less significant coverage:  The article notes: "Meanwhile, Melinda has built herself a new "spiffy life" as a dentist's wife in Ohio. Spiffy? It's not a good sign when this Court TV production starts with a sigh from the narrator. Indeed the light-hearted tone continues throughout. An unsolved murder has been committed for heaven's sake. One can only imagine Steve Liebmann, host of our own crime re-enactment series Crime Investigation Australia, tut-tutting at Suburban Secrets' somewhat ambivalent sarcasm."  The article provides one sentence of coverage about the subject. The article notes: "Court TV, which has increased its audience every quarter for the past two years, changes its name to TruTV on Tuesday. ... For the New York-based channel that signed on in 1991 as the Courtroom Television Network, the changeover began 18 months ago - in part, Juris said, because viewers liked the nonfiction, non-courtroom shows such as "Forensic Files" and "Suburban Secrets.""  The article notes: ""SUBURBAN SECRETS" Court TV at 10. Behind the picket fences of suburbia lurks more than one deadly secret, and this 15-episode documentary series aims to expose an entire community of devoted mothers, community leaders and hardworking neighbors whose crimes have left their corner of the world rocked by scandal. Tonight, a vicious murder puts a neighborhood on edge in the sleepy town of Conway, S.C., when 17-year-old Crystal Todd turns up dead after a night out with friends."</li> <li> The article notes: "The cable series Suburban Secrets will feature the 2002 slaying of real estate agent David Nixon by Tracey Frame and show how Grapevine police Detective Larry Hallmark put the case together."</li> <li> The article provides one sentence of coverage about the subject. The article notes: ""Suburban Secrets," 10:30 p.m., Court TV. This second new episode involves a tale of home invaders in Olathe, Kan."</li> </ol></li> </ol>There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Suburban Secrets to pass Notability, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Cunard (talk) 11:57, 8 May 2022 (UTC) </li></ul> Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 02:30, 11 May 2022 (UTC) Relisting comment: Last relist, hopefully for an additional party to comment either way on whether SIGCOV requirements are met. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Nosebagbear (talk) 07:47, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * I'm still not convinced on the strength of Cunard's sources, especially given that the second one is barely a paragraph long and the rest are trivial. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 04:28, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
 * The New York Post article provides 404 words of coverage, while the Chattanooga Times Free Press article provides 174 words of coverage about the subject. This is enough to meet Notability. Cunard (talk) 01:31, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep per sources listed above, enough to pass at the minimum WP:GNG Donald D23   talk to me  02:43, 22 May 2022 (UTC)


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