Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Subway Army


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The result was   redirect to List of hooligan firms. If any content needs to be merged, this can be done after the close of this AfD.  Ryan Postlethwaite See the mess I've created or let's have banter 10:03, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Subway Army

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Non-notable football hooligan "firm", web search reveals only a couple of extremely brief passing mentions in more general articles on hooliganism, nothing in-depth. Most of the article appears to be about general Wolves-relegated hooliganism committed years after this group reportedly disbanded...... ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:42, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
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 * 'Weak Keep' - needs a thorough rewrite to lose the acres of unsupported text, but the Guardian article is fairly in depth about this particular group, and there are enough other (admittedly slighter) references from the BBC, When Saturday Comes etc to establish notability. StuartDouglas (talk) 11:07, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
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 * Merge and redirect to Wolverhampton Wanderers F.C. as no evidence of any independent notability. GiantSnowman 09:13, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep -- Football hooliganism was a significant problem, mainly in the past. A case study such as this is thus worth having.  Since it is largelyu history, I would oppose merger, since including substantial material on a minority of misguided alleged supporters will upset the balance of the main article, though it might briefly be mentioned with a link (possibly via a main template).  However we have a vast amount of unreferenced material.  Can any of this be verified, for example from lofcal newspapers, such as Express and Star?  If not, it probably derives from the memories of participants, which is not WP:RS and must therefore be removed. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:06, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of hooligan firms. The article is a shambles, and it is unlikely that enough reliable sources can be found to clean it up properly. But there's no harm in redirecting to a related list. Oldelpaso (talk) 19:44, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Redirect. As above. No evidence of notability. How this rubbish has been kept on Wikipedia for three-and-a-half years is beyond me. Walls of Jericho (talk) 23:29, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
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