Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Success Story (song)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to The Who by Numbers. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:44, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Success Story (song)

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The article does not fulfill criteria given in WP:NSONG. Vanjagenije (talk) 11:57, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  T  C  N7 JM  12:10, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions.  T  C  N7 JM  12:10, 16 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete - The song is not notable per the criteria given above. T  C  N7 JM  12:11, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  D u s t i *Let's talk!* 03:40, 23 August 2013 (UTC)


 * This article would be best as a redirect to The Who by Numbers. The album and band is notable, but I can't really see any independent coverage of this song, other than probably reviews of the LP, that it would have its own article. Unless were missing any coverage or official chart positions, a redirect or merge would have to do for now. 和DITOR  E tails 15:26, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep - The current sources are a self-published source and a copyright violation, but the appearance on The Kids are Alright is significant and a legit DVD release can be cited. It's mentioned in multiple book sources as notable example of John Entwistle's songwriting, and one of the few songs by him to make it onto Who Albums in the 1970s (only My Wife is more notable IMHO) - see here, here and here. Ritchie333  (talk)  (cont)   13:00, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I have rewritten the article using the sources listed here, and hope the Heymann Standard is now met. The unsourced original research about the line "I'm your fairy godmanager" being an allusion to homosexuality (instead of just a pun on the fairy godmother) was, frankly, unacceptable. Ritchie333  (talk)  (cont)   13:29, 28 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Redirect. None of the links is actually about the song, so WP:NOTINHERITED applies as does WP:NSONGS and WP:GNG. Where it should redirect is another question, more than happy for Ritchie333's input on that. --Richhoncho (talk) 20:30, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
 * If you can't decide which article to redirect to (and I believe you could make strong cases for both The Who By Numbers and The Kids Are Alright (film)), that usually means you have to go with "keep". If you assume that The Who and Entwistle solo are two distinct entities, I believe the song also passes WP:NSONGS criteria 3. "Has been independently released as a recording by several notable artists, bands, or groups." (depending, again, on whether or not you interpret two as "several"!) Notability is tenuous, but I think it's just about there. Ritchie333  (talk)  (cont)   09:21, 30 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Selective merge to The Who by Numbers, per WP:NSONG. -- Trevj (talk) 15:14, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Dea  db  eef  19:27, 3 September 2013 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.