Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sudanese tuberculosis outbreak (2023−present)


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The result was delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Liz Read! Talk! 20:54, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Sudanese tuberculosis outbreak (2023−present)

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Unable to locate any sources to support that there was an outbreak of tuberculosis in Sudan in 2023.

This article as a whole seems to misrepresent the main source used. The source does not support An ongoing outbreak of tuberculosis (TB), an infectious disease, was confirmed in Sudan in May 2023. The source does not support On 8 May 2023, the UN announced a significant outbreak of tuberculosis in Sudan and Ukraine The source does not support the bolded portion here: It confirmed at least 34,000 cases in Ukraine and a large but unspecified number in Sudan.

There was no "announcement". The source summarizes what "Dr. Lucica Ditiu, executive director of the Stop TB Partnership, said before a hearing Monday to prepare for a high-level meeting in late September during the annual gathering of world leaders at the UN General Assembly." The source is about worldwide TB challenges. All it says about Sudan is:

"In Sudan, 18,000 people received treatment for tuberculosis in 2021, according to the Stop TB Partnership, which is managed by the UN Office for Project Services and aims to achieve a world free of tuberculosis.

But Ditiu said the situation there for TB sufferers, because of the ongoing fighting and collapse of most of the health system, is 'probably like a ticking bomb.'"

"Probably like a ticking bomb" does not justify the content in the article.

None of the other sources in the article are about a "Sudanese tuberculosis outbreak". One is a review of TB in Sudan between 2004-2014. Six are about TB, unrelated to Sudan. Five are about the war in Sudan, unrelated to TB. The topic of the article as indicated by the article title, is only addressed by the lead sentence and the very last paragraph (which, again, is not supported by the source).

I was looking for sources to update the content, since it's "2023–present". I found concerns about cholera, dengue fever, and measles, but couldn't find anything talking about a TB outbreak in Sudan. Schazjmd  (talk)  16:06, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Events, Medicine,  and Sudan.  Schazjmd   (talk)  16:06, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per comprehensive analysis by the nom. There are no reliable independent secondary sources claiming there is any such outbreak, and what there is has been distorted. This is not encyclopaedic - there is SYNTH and OR but no evidence of a primary subject. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 16:57, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete: Seems to be bits of information cobbled together, OR-ish. An uptick is diseases is an unfortunate side effect of any war when the healthcare system breaks down and basic sanitation goes away due to the situation. Could very well be an "outbreak" but it might not meet notability requirements here. This isn't the next Covid outbreak, to put it in perspective. Oaktree b (talk) 19:42, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
 * We could perhaps put a few words about the various diseases (as mentioned in the comment above my !vote) in an article about "2023 conflict in the Sudan" or something similar, but I don't think we have quite enough to make an entire wiki article about it. Oaktree b (talk) 19:44, 6 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete, This outbreak seems inherently connected to the collapse of the healthcare system in Sudan due to the ongoing civil war in the country, so I suggest the information presented be placed in a section of the main article, rather than having its own article. -Samoht27 (talk) 18:06, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
 * @Samoht27, there is no reliable source to support that there even was a tuberculosis outbreak, that's the problem. We can't merge unverifiable claims to another article. Schazjmd   (talk)  18:48, 8 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom, article is WP:SYNTH. No hits for "Sudanese tuberculosis outbreak". Mooonswimmer 18:52, 8 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete: glad someone got to it. TB is affecting almost third of the Sudanese population before the war and the numbers are still the same FuzzyMagma (talk) 08:10, 9 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete. The reference for the first sentence does not seem to support the claim that there is a notable TB outbreak in Sudan. After that first sentence, the article is about TB in general or about conflict in Sudan and doesn't say anything more about a current TB outbreak. Mgp28 (talk) 12:16, 13 May 2024 (UTC)


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