Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sufyani


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Sam Sailor Talk! 09:30, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Sufyani

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Apart from the article itself not meeting WP:NPOV, WP:REDFLAG it has been around for some time and somehow, completely unbeknownst to me, it has still managed to exist without any WP:NEUTRAL sources. This article must be a bullet proof vest or something. The article is also a biography which doesn't seem to assert the importance of the person with any sourced facts. Olowe2011 Talk 06:49, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep The article should be improved, but the aforementioned problems are not sufficient to omit an article with adequate Notability. This issue has been covered by several academic works such as "The Sufyani between Tradition and History" and "Apocalyptic Time"-- Seyyed(t-c) 10:48, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep Clearly passes GNG and the concerns raised by the OP has nothing to with deletion. It just needs to be improved. I encourage the nominator to withdraw the nomination. Mhhossein (talk) 15:24, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment - A search on jstor came up with 0 results as presented here. I would also point out that the editors commenting on this article for keep or delete have themselves indicted their inability to make impartial edits or judgement's about this articles content by indicating on their profiles that they are member's of the Muslim Faith. While of course this does not mean their contributions are un-constructive, it could present a WP:NPOV violation. The GNG also specifically indicates the requirement for significant coverage by un-involved or non-bias sources. The two sources used in this article are themselves in reference to another name which is not this articles title. Perhaps it would be appropriate for this article to be moved? Olowe2011  Talk 16:09, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
 * "The two sources used in this article are themselves in reference to another name which is not this articles title. Perhaps it would be appropriate for this article to be moved?" → I don't get this, the sources obviously discuss the Sufyani (an apocalyptic figure). If you think that "Sufyānī" is different from "Sufyani", please read WP:MOSAR; it's basically a matter of transliteration conventions. - HyperGaruda (talk) 19:03, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

As I remember, this is the first time during 10 years activity in wikipedia that someone says "I would also point out that the editors commenting on this article for keep or delete have themselves indicted their inability to make impartial edits or judgement's about this articles content by indicating on their profiles that they are member's of the Muslim Faith."!!! I think you are unfamiliar with wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Please read WP:NPOV policy carefully.-- Seyyed(t-c) 16:38, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
 * FYI, this editor tried to create an essay called WP:NORELIGION and has recently left Wikipedia. - HyperGaruda (talk) 04:48, 7 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep These sources confirm his notability: The Oxford Handbook of Millennialism, The Legend of Sergius..., Holiest Wars: Islamic Mahdis, Their Jihads, and Osama Bin Laden, Messianic Beliefs and Imperial Politics in Medieval Islam: The ʻAbbāsid ..., The Syrian Uprising and Signs Of The Hour: The End Of America, The End Of ..., Contemporary Muslim Apocalyptic Literature, About 2012, The End of the World.Saff V. (talk) 05:30, 7 May 2016 (UTC)


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