Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sugar industry of Saint Mary


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The result was Speedy delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__ both pages as copyvios. Stifle (talk) 08:30, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

Sugar industry of Saint Mary

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While the sugar industry of Saint Mary may well be a notable subject, this page is a very sprawling, exhaustive bit-by-bit history of some estates, and learns us very little about the actual sugar industry. WP:TNT seems better than trying to remove 90% and rewriting the remainder into a coherent, clear article. I don't think we need things like "1945: The Syndicate Estates decided to let Arthur Hallpike rent a coconut grove on the property in order to promote the growth of coconuts for pig feed.", or the series of irrelevant non-sequiturs "2004: "Our "National Fruit," the Antigua Black Pineapple, is depicted on our coat of arms. It has dark yellow meat that is very sweet and flavorful. The area known as the "Pineapple Belt" runs from Redhill to Bethesda and has volcanic soil all the way to Cades Bay. Pineapples are cultivated from suckers, which mature in 15 to 18 months and continue to bear fruit for around three years. Ten acres are currently farmed at the Government Station.[4] 2005: At Urlings, there is a lovely old manse that is still abandoned and deteriorating. In the past five years, the bell in the picture has been taken (plunderer). The Museum has access to Rev. Reid's family's diaries, which describe his time serving St. Mary's Parish in the Old Road neighborhood in 1859. Antigua's tallest peak, Bogey Peak, which was renamed Mt. Obama shortly after President Obama of the United States was elected, is 1319 feet high." Every entry has such things paraphrased from the source without much care, like "1778 — died in London. Robert Christian's son died in Antigua in 1776. It is thought that he arrived in London from Antigua in the year 1777, and by the year 1778, he was residing in Southampton-street, Strand, in the city of Westminster, where he died. His sister Margaret was married to William Gunthorpe of Antigua, and he had a brother named John who died there long before 1777." Fram (talk) 17:03, 24 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Also nominated, the very similar Sugar industry of Saint George. Fram (talk) 07:58, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: History, Economics,  and Caribbean. Fram (talk) 17:03, 24 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Support per nom.  CROIX talk 17:07, 24 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Comment - I don't understand what is going on here. User:CROIX seems to have recently created a 115,000 page in one edit. It seems to me to be a copy&paste and/or WP:OR (see [1]). Either way, that would be a delete. But then the same editor apparently agrees with the nomination above. JMWt (talk) 19:01, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment earwig shows an 85% likely copyvio from https://sugarmills.blogs.bucknell.edu/green-castle/ Mccapra (talk) 20:41, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

I have added the very similar Sugar industry of Saint George to this nomination, as it has the exact same issues. Fram (talk) 07:59, 25 August 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.