Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Suhas Gopinath


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Nakon 22:52, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

Suhas Gopinath
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 * Delete - This article contains content that is written totally like an advertisement. Even though Gopinath is not at all a significant entrepreneur to be listed on Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a platform for people who have just received some awards, even though the awards are also not significant. Preeti Sharma&#39;s Knowledge (talk) 18:57, 1 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep - In support to Keep the article I would like to share these independent links to enhance the credibility of the article and even Jimmy Wales has supported against the vandalism on this article two times. None of the News Agencies have used this article as the source of reference. Even the press about Suhas Gopinath by The Economist is also a validation. I am surprised that this article that has been there for so many years is flagged for deletion, request to independently verify the news sources below:
 * 122.167.220.86 (talk) 19:52, 2 April 2015 (UTC)Naveen Bombatkar — 122.167.220.86 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Note to Closing Admin - I wouldn't be surprised to recognize the above 'Keep' vote by Suhas Gopinath himself in order to defend his article from getting deleted. Moreover as per the archives the claim made above that "Jimmy Wales has supported against Vandalism for this article is rather a false claim and should be simply ignored. Dormantos (talk) 04:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions.  Everymorning   talk  19:18, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Biography-related deletion discussions. Dormantos buzz  07:15, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. • Dormantos (talk) 07:15, 2 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Note seems to have registered specifically to comment on this AfD. --ThaddeusB (talk) 15:29, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Dormantos has been blocked indefinitely as a sock puppet. As such, I have striken his comments on this AfD. --ThaddeusB (talk) 05:32, 8 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep - subject passes the GNG as indicated by the many reliable sources already in the article and others found in a quick news search. Past promotional editing (even if it occurred) is never a valid reason for deletion. --ThaddeusB (talk) 15:29, 2 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment - Okay thanks ThaddeusB for your explanation. So shall I take it as you oppose my one point and accept my rest of the points mentioned above. I believe Wikipedia accept articles that have coverage in regular media and not creating sources based on claims made primarily on Wikipedia. I will surely respond if you have any queries regarding my research over the article. Dormantos (talk) 16:20, 2 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment - Dormantos, I think Suhas Gopinath is trying to be smart! And creating buzz for his article. Note for Suhas Gopinath & Globals Media: Nobody is late to enter in Wikipedia but you need to achieve a lot more in real life than you think. Preeti Sharma&#39;s Knowledge (talk) 19:47, 2 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep, on the basis subject meets WP:GNG with online and (now) offline news coverage from 2003 to date. The sourcing could certainly do with tightening-up and improving, but that's not a reason for deletion. Sionk (talk) 20:02, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep Holds the title "The Youngest CEO" by the India Book of Records.. Meets WP:SIGCOV as there are numerous sources available. Mkdw talk 23:09, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. Lots of coverage in independent reliable sources, both in India and internationally, including a full-length biographical article in Der Spiegel. Easily passes WP:GNG. —Psychonaut (talk) 14:45, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Note I refactored this AFD. The nominator's statement had been pushed down out of order and the comments by Dormantos and others were nearly unreadable due to the mass bolding and prose/paragraph styles. The links were in long form as well. The discussion before the refactoring can be found here. Considering the edit patterns and format style of both the nominator and Dormantos, I have concerns about socking on both sides of this discussion. Mkdw talk 19:05, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment / Delete / Keep - OK everyone! If Wikipedia is now accepting the articles of these type of entrepreneurs by there publicity only and without knowing there financial details such as turnover etc. even the company is not also on Wikipedia then, I must say I have 100+ names of more popular entrepreneurs to write about. Shall I start writing about them? or This article is old, so that we have to give any kind of privileges. Preeti Sharma&#39;s Knowledge (talk) 19:11, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Preeti Sharma's Knowledge, notability is not determined by things like financial detail and turnover. If enough reliable and independent sources have written about an individual, they are considered notable. Notability and success are two different things. Moreover, we treat companies very differently than how we treat articles about people. If you have 100+ other individuals, whom meet our WP:GNG policy, then I would say go ahead. However, you need a clear understanding of how GNG works to do so first. Mkdw talk 19:22, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Mkdw, Thanks for your deep explanation. I am reading Wikipedia from years and thought that the Wikipedia platform is for the people who are extremely popular in there work industry and have extreme Media Coverage. THE REASON OF NOMINATION - Because for example if industry icon such as - Manu Agarwal, Founder of Naaptol & others are not on Wikipedia then, a entrepreneur like Suhas Gopinath without having much popularity or financial releases in Media should not be on Wikipedia by my point of view. Else I am an Editor and the decision is in your hands as a Administrator there is no reason to debate further. Thanks Preeti Sharma&#39;s Knowledge (talk) 19:35, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Administrators have no more authority in AFD discussions than any other editor aside from closings. Your opinion and comments are equally valued to mine and it is the merits of our talking points against current policies and guidelines that should decide the outcome. The issue of what constitutes notability is a hotly debated topic and you are not alone in thinking that the current inclusion criteria is too relaxed. I would encourage you to continue to participate as notability can change as determined through consensus by the community. WP:NMUSIC is a good example where the criteria changed a considerable amount in the last few years. Mkdw talk 20:30, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Mkdw, Thanks for your explanation. I have created an basic article of Manu Agarwal, Founder of Naaptol. I am still in the process of editing and making article good, hope for your best support. Preeti Sharma&#39;s Knowledge (talk) 09:17, 4 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep, easily notable, if it's poorly written WP:JUSTFIXIT, don't drag it into AfD.  Kharkiv07 Talk  05:02, 4 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Note Referring to the List of Indian entrepreneurs, Kochuousep Chittilapilly, Anand Deshpande, Byrraju Ramialinga Raju, Dr. G. Surender Rao do not have their article even though their companies have a Wikipedia article. Also refer that Varun Agarwal has got a Wikipedia article even though his company Alma Mater Store hasn't got one. This was in reply to @Preeti Sharma&#39;s Knowledge. Commenting on accusing me of sock-puppetry by @Mkdw, it's quite surprising to see that anyone who opposes you are considered as sock puppets by you in your Wikipedia. Even I know that the consensus for this article is obviously keep and neither I have forced anyone to vote in my favour. I have listed the dead links and links to personal blogs in the article of Suhas Gopinath that needs to be rectified with more valid sources. I am new to Wikipedia and I need time to familiarise with it's policies. Please_do_not_bite_the_newcomers. Dormantos (talk) 08:46, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I added the SPI tag to the top of this AFD because you raised concerns about sock puppetry in the discussion and at Sockpuppet_investigations/Globals_media. You also listed several IPs in this discussion in a note to the closing admin. It was then I noticed that other editors had filed an SPI against you at Sockpuppet investigations/Sanjoy64. I find it quite surprising that you'd come to the conclusion that "anyone who opposes [me] are considered sock puppets". I rarely participate at SPI nor did I file anything against you. It's rather ironic because I added the top template in support of comments you made. I think WP:BITE is a great policy, and aside from the SPI, which you shouldn't take personally, because if no wrongdoing has been done then it will settle the issue. I don't think anyone has mistreated you and plenty of people have taken the time to explain their positions despite this being a fairly clear cut case of meeting our main policy on notability. Likewise, if you expect others to be nice to you, then I suggest you carefully measure your words and avoid strong accusations like the broad statement you made about me in what I can assume good faith was a misunderstanding. Mkdw talk 17:16, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Dear Mkdw. I apologize for being harsh to you. I really don't know why I was under constant attack when I joined Wiki and posted on this Afd. Yes I do accept that I did vote numerous Afd seeing the content only and not going by the policies. But now I have gone through complete policies of WP:GNG, WP:BLP, WP:BIO, WP:AFD, WP:AUTHOR as well. I am sorry for using hard words at you. Regret for that. I would expect this Afd to go in a healthy manner. Thanks for your polite correspondence. Dormantos (talk) 18:39, 4 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep per Kharkiv07 above. Easily notable per WP:BIO, strong coverage from multiple WP:RS. Dai Pritchard (talk) 09:24, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
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