Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Suicide in College


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Jenks24 (talk) 03:42, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

Suicide in College

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Article about suicide in a postsecondary education setting, which is written far too much like a cross between an essay and a how-to guide to getting help and doesn't cite nearly enough reliable sourcing to demonstrate that this really needs a separate article from the concept of suicide in general. I believe such an article might certainly be possible to write and source -- but this article, as written, isn't it. It's a clear candidate for the WP:TNT treatment, in that even if a better version can be written, this version is bad enough that we'd be better off starting over from scratch than trying to build on this. Bearcat (talk) 21:48, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete as an essay (and a peculiar one at that, citing some of the sources to the authors' first names). Agreed that there may be an article to be written about this sort of thing, but this isn't the beginnings of one. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 22:35, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: The article's creator appears (from the page history) to have contributed the article as part of a college course, and his userpage in fact redirects to the article. There is, perhaps, a case for userfication here as well, as what's been written isn't an encyclopedia article but is most likely intended to become one. How that plays with the idea that Wikipedia's not a web-host is something I've never quite understood, as the college courses seem to have turned up while I had my back turned. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 22:39, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: To assess the rewritten article.
 * Weak userfy/draftify (if such an option exists). The improvements made by Tokyogirl greatly improve the article, and it may be close to a keepable standard (the references aren't playing nice on my computer, but neither is my computer playing nice today). Where things sit with the college class is still an open question - is it still an "active" assignment, in other words - but it's definitely looking healthier than it did before. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 23:56, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep content needs to be re written as it doesn't comply with Wikipedia encyclopedic style, however doing a Google search brings up a few articles specifically on this topic - as opposed to suicide generally (including Washington post and some other good RS) so I would argue its a valid concept for an article, and enough RS to qualify it as different to suicide. Deathlibrarian (talk) 02:40, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete or draftify/userfy - Although the article isn't acceptable for the mainspace in its current state, it could become a viable article in the future. Since it seems the creator is willing to improve it, it would seem the best course of action would be to draftify it or delete it. Draftifying or deleting the article would both be acceptable, as there isn't much usable content, but it might encourage the creator if we just draftify it instead of deleting it. So, either would be acceptable. RileyBugz 会話 投稿記録  18:34, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment:, , , I've made some edits to remove the essay-like prose to the article. What do you think of the article in its current state? I had avoided making any edits to the article in the hopes that the student would return, as they posted this article in August, but they haven't returned since. For full disclosure, while this is my main account I am also the Wiki Education employee who was in charge of this class, so I'm going to refrain from arguing for or against deletion. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)  15:36, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment I've added two more articles, there is plent of RS on Student suicide out there, and IMHO the article is looking a lot better now. Deathlibrarian (talk) 10:06, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:07, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. Notable topic;  article is, at least now after changes, presentable although short. -- do  ncr  am  21:14, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep Obviously notable and easily referenced topic across multiple disciplines. "Better off starting from scratch" is not in the criteria for deletion. LargelyRecyclable (talk) 18:41, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep Notable topic, now more inline with policies. L3X1 (distænt write)  00:57, 29 October 2017 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.