Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Suicide of Sammy Teusch


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy deleted: WP:BDP, WP:NOTNEWS, WP:SUSTAINED, WP:TOSOON, et cetera, etc. El_C 01:40, 24 May 2024 (UTC)‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__

Suicide of Sammy Teusch

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No evidence of Wp:SUSTAINED coverage currently (also see WP:NOTNEWS) and can be recreated in the future if this turns out to have significant impacts. Clearly fulls under the purview of WP:BDP ("Such extensions would apply particularly to contentious or questionable material about the subject that has implications for their living relatives and friends, such as in the case of a possible suicide or particularly gruesome crime") and thus we should presume in favor of privacy. Sincerely, Dilettante 18:44, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. Same arguments as nom: WP:SUSTAINED, WP:NOTNEWS, and WP:BDP. There is no encyclopedic value in documenting this tragic situation. I saw mentions of the family pursuing a law, and perhaps someday a law will pass and be notable and in that context, a brief mention of the suicide that led to the law would be appropriate. He only died less than three weeks ago; if there is continuing coverage six months or a year from now, an article could be reconsidered. (I came across this article and its deletion nomination via WP:BLPN.) Schazjmd   (talk)  18:54, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Events and Indiana.  WC  Quidditch   ☎   ✎  18:58, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per NOTNEWS. If this is truly a historically-important event rather than a tragic blip on the radar, there will be plenty of time to build a proper, sourced article then, rather than relying upon ONEEVENT coverage of dubious caliber. Carrite (talk) 19:21, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete, clear NOTNEWS. At a minimum, this is way WP:TOOSOON.  Nomoskedasticity (talk) 19:32, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete This is tragic, obviously, but the nominator and the previous delete votes have clearly laid out the case for why Wikipedia should not have this article. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 19:54, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. WP:BDP clearly and explicitly applies. AndyTheGrump (talk) 20:28, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment. Perhaps the notable event is the persistent failure of school administrators to do anything, let alone develop a coherent strategy to reduce bullying, rather than the suicide itself. The international coverage that the incident received suggests that there will be changes as a result, starting with some school district officials losing their jobs, and perhaps the proposed legislation being enacted. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 22:05, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
 * The international coverage looks to me like low-quality churnalism. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 23:44, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete per nom and NOTNEWS, and BDP. Additionally, User:Tempelz should review all the policies and guidelines quoted here in this discussion, and take a look at WP:RSP for acceptable sources to use in any article. Isaidnoway (talk) 22:11, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I would also question the use of Inside Edition as a source, but oddly found basically no discusion of it in the WP:RSN archives. I was actually surprised to find it is still on the air, unlike A Current Affair and other 80's/90's tabloid infotainment shows. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 23:59, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
 * They have 282 edits total. I don't fault them for not realizing there were issues with the subject.
 * , while I would advise reading all the linked pages, it's a lot to take in and I won't fault you for not wanting to read everything.
 * If you do decide to create pages in the future (and I hope you do), I'd recommend reading the general notability guideline, the notability guideline for athletes (particularly the sentence about boxers), and our policy on biographies of living or recently deceased persons. Most other policies and guidelines are unnecessary for now for the edits you do, but I encourage you to read more if you'd like to.
 * If you ever need help, feel free to ask on my my talk page or on this forum for a speedier response. Sincerely, Dilettante 01:20, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment - If named legislation follows this, a solid Keep case can be made for an article combining the incident with the resulting law. But at this moment, this is clearly news reportage of a personal-level incident. Carrite (talk) 22:14, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Iff such legislation results, would agree a case could be made for "an article on the resulting law (with the incident as background information)". The difference being in the level of detail. Rotary Engine talk 22:50, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete per nom, NOTNEWS, BDP. Endorse the advice of above. Rotary Engine talk 22:50, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete per above: *non-hypothetical!* *actual!* BLP concerns for survivors, NOTNEWS, and TOOSOON. If legislation gains coverage indicating notability, the some of this content could go to a legislation article but only with WP:DUE weight and BLP survivors in mind. JFHJr (㊟) 00:27, 24 May 2024 (UTC)


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