Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sukaina Khan (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. The arguments essentially boil down to WP:NACTOR (for keep) vs. WP:GNG (for deletion), with one editor further disputing that the bar for NACTOR has been met. With a narrow majority of !votes favoring deletion on grounds of failing to meet GNG, delete has the upper hand in terms of both numbers and arguments, noting that like most WP:SNG provisions, NACTOR states that an actor meeting its prescriptions merely may be notable and primarily defers to GNG. A further consideration pushing towards a delete over no consensus outcome here is that the article is a WP:BLP. signed,Rosguill talk 15:24, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Sukaina Khan
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The subject does not meet criteria outlined in the relevant WP:NACTOR as well basic WP:GNG. No evidence indicating significant roles in notable films, TV dramas, etc. Merely being in a film or TV drama does not make one WP:Inherent notability. Previously deleted via AfD Articles for deletion/Sukaina Khan — Saqib ( talk  |  contribs ) 16:51, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions. — Saqib  ( talk  |  contribs ) 16:51, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers, Women,  and Television.  WC  Quidditch   ☎   ✎  17:14, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep: Seems to meet WP:NACTOR with various significant roles in notable productions. - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank)  12:26, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
 * But I was unable to verify if she had significant roles. As I said in my nom, merely being in a film or TV drama does not make one inherent notable. — Saqib ( talk  |  contribs ) 15:38, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Lead roles/Main cast in Tevar, Fasiq, Teri Berukhi,Fitna, to name just a few. merely being in a film or TV drama does not make one inherent notable. But nobody said that! SIGNIFICANT roles (lead or not, but in the present case, various lead roles). No further comment. - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank)  11:06, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Note The creator of this BLP has peculiar editing history. I've raised concerns about it on WP:ANI. — Saqib ( talk  |  contribs ) 17:55, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep: She is notable actress and she started working as child actress in supporting roles. Now she does lead roles as well and she does modeling as well recently she is working drama Sultanat on Hum TV.(BeauSuzanne (talk) 06:06, 30 April 2024 (UTC))

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Guerillero Parlez Moi 09:48, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I acknowledge that she is an actress and has appeared in TV dramas, which naturally garners some media coverage. However, this interview alone ( a primary source) is definitely not sufficient to establish that she had significant roles. — Saqib  ( talk  |  contribs ) 08:44, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

*Keep as per My, oh my!  (Mushy Yank) .182.182.97.3 (talk) 15:44, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
 * This is akin to WP:PERX — Saqib ( talk  |  contribs ) 18:03, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
 * IP blocked. --— Saqib ( talk  I  contribs ) 21:52, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 11:06, 13 May 2024 (UTC) Relisting comment: Given the complete lack of discussion since the 2nd relisting, this is less like a 3rd relisting (which, of course, it technically is) and more an extension of the 2nd listing. It would be good to have some other views because some of what has gone on so far seems a bit disruptive (not pointing fingers). Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Doczilla  Ohhhhhh, no! 01:38, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete: BLP, fails GNG and NBIO. Sources in article and found in BEFORE fail WP:SIRS, nothing from neutral, independent, reliable sources addressing the subject directly and indepth. Found promo material, interviews, name mentions/listings, nothing that meets WP:SIGCOV. BLPs require strong sourcing.  // Timothy :: talk  12:46, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

*Keep - The nominator mentioned in here that seriously popular Pakistani TV shows like Champions with Waqar Zaka, XPOSED, Living on the Edge (Sabse Himmat Wala Kon?), King of Street Magic, Desi Kudiyan, The Cricket Challenge and Video On Trial - just to name a few. Even though these shows might not have their own WP articles but they have definitely received coverage from various RS. She is winner of one of the shows mentioned by the nominator, "Desi Kuriyan". So rationale provided as "No evidence indicating significant roles in notable films, TV dramas, etc" in this WP:AfD doesn't makes sense when nominator accepted that show she won have received coverage from RS in Articles for deletion/Waqar Zaka (3rd nomination).182.182.63.7 (talk) 19:47, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete: I will stipulate the subject exists, but I can't find sufficient sourcing to meet GNG, ANYBIO, or NACTOR. Keep assertions acquire the BURDEN of presenting RS (or at least proof of RS existing). Nothing applied or presented here puts us past this bar. BusterD (talk) 21:18, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
 * 182.182.63.7, OK but you still need to backup your claims with evidence from RS. First, prove that she won the show. Second, demonstrate that the show itself received sig/ in-depth coverage. Cheers! — Saqib ( talk  I  contribs ) 20:07, 27 May 2024 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.