Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Summerville Plantation


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Vanamonde (Talk) 17:57, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Summerville Plantation

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No references and no indication of importance. Google search gives some results about Summerville, South Carolina and a different plantation in Thalia, Virginia, but nothing in Chesterfield County. power~enwiki ( π, ν ) 23:25, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

I will finish the article in the next couple days as well as add references. As for notability, Thomas Jefferson stayed there for a night while fleeing from the British during the Revolutionary war. It was also the home and death place of William Fleming (judge), the third chief justice of Virginia and an important figure in early Virginia politics. I think this house would qualify for "lost history," perhaps that is why there are little to no search results for it.Bradylang (talk) 00:14, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Virginia-related deletion discussions. power~enwiki ( π,  ν ) 23:25, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 05:17, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 05:17, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep I think we jumped the gun on this deletion proposal. The Chesterfield Historical Society article is a solid start. Glendoremus (talk) 21:07, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per Glendoremus and Bradylang. I think this has good potential. Should be given time to develop.  // Timothy ::  talk  13:39, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. Check your sources before you nominate the article for deletion.  BMB 722 (talk) 05:34, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per above. Flashy724 (talk) 15:34, 25 July 2020 (UTC) Deleting comments from blocked sockpuppets. Nfitz (talk) 02:11, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep, at least for now -- This seems to be a case of a nomination made when an article is still a stub, before the article has been finished. The article now has a source in 1988 article.  The ultimate question may be whether the plantation was a notable one.  That is a different issue and one on which I cannot judge.  Posting an AFD on an article as soon as it is created is bad form (WP:DONOTBITE).  I recall having this done to me many years ago when I accessed the Internet over a dial up connection, when an admin deleted a stub that i had created as an initial placeholder.  When I complained about this I was advised to tag it as  .Peterkingiron (talk) 17:00, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Leaning Delete unless more sources are found. In its current state the article is really just a series of mini-bios of people who lived there, with very little about the property itself. I'm not finding sufficient coverage to establish notability. –dlthewave ☎ 22:51, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26  (spin me / revolutions) 17:17, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

I would just like to put some of my thoughts out here. I made this page to give a researcher who stumbled over the name "Summerville" a place to look over the history of the house and the people who lived there. In many books, articles, and other sources of information, people can see the names of plantations such as "Monticello," "Westover," "Shirley," and many other notable estates. If the reader desires more information on these houses and farms, they can usually go to Wikipedia to find a pretty decent article to read. However, some plantations have not been kept up as well as others and have been demolished thanks to neglect or they have been burned by fire, or sometimes there is some other reason. Then, the surrounding cleared land where the house stood becomes reclaimed by nature or built over by new developments (sometimes ignorant of the fact that a once large plantation house stood there or that people may have been buried there, as is the situation with Summerville). The plantation ceases to exist but in memory and written material. For many plantations, there is scarce written material and it can often be hard to find, at least by a simple web search. A Wikipedia article brings all this information to one easily accessible place. I'm not sure if Summerville would fit your notability clauses but I still think that it would be a good article to be out there. – Bradylang (talk) 16:01, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep Has several sources, seems to be a notable plantation. ~ EDDY  ( talk / contribs )~ 01:56, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Looking at the article, I see once source that covers the plantation itself. The other two are just genealogical records for people who lived there. –dlthewave ☎ 03:34, 5 August 2020 (UTC)


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