Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sunflower, Arizona


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The result was keep. Star  Mississippi  02:11, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

Sunflower, Arizona

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I'm not getting a good picture on this one. There were and are buildings there, but not the same buildings: you can see the foundations of the older set on GMaps. The Sunflower Mine is 6.5 mi NNW, which is quite a hike in the days when men walked to work. I couldn't find anything substantive in searching, which leaves us with these newspaper clips. Here's where things start to creep into OR, as more modern references to a town there run up against the reality that there isn't a town there now, and hasn't been for some time. Maybe someone can find some better material but I don't think what we have cuts the mustard. Mangoe (talk) 04:48, 3 March 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ (talk) 06:35, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and Arizona. Shellwood (talk) 12:33, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep. It is or has been a populated place, and Wikipedia is a gazetteer about populated places.  Searching in Wikipedia Library (no prior registration required) i find this article titled "Screwtail Cave" whose abstract is (emphasis added by me): "During January and February, 1967, a highway archaeological salvage project along the Phoenix-Payson Highway was undertaken by the Arizona State Museum. This project was to investigate sites endangered by construction and widening operations on the highway. One such endangered site consisted of a series of rock shelters located on Screwtail Ridge south of Sunflower, Arizona. This site reflected occupation by prehistoric Indian groups during the 10th through 12th centuries."  And, article or account of the program Good Morning America in 2023 (emphasis added by me): "GINGER ZEE (ABC NEWS) (Off-camera) Hey, there. You know, Phoenix, Arizona, Michael, had their coldest high temperature in nearly four years. They had snow going on in Sunflower, Arizona. You could see the cacti there. And then Tucson at this point, with a trace of snow yesterday, has the same amount of snow as New York City this year because we've only had a trace at the time."  It seems to be a recognized place, I presume populated, and Wikipedia is a gazeeteer about populated places, so "Keep". --Doncram (talk,contribs) 01:49, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Comment I just added info about the creation of a Sunflower post office in 1945 and the history of the Sunflower mining district (North America), plus a map from the USGS report about the same. I think this is another one that may or may not be a settled place but is a tag in the GNIS because it's an archaic placename and/or they need a geotag for "notable rocks." I did find some other mentions in Arizona Memory, mostly geological, but I'll add what seems notable. jengod (talk) 02:52, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment It seems that there's been something here for quite some time, but whether or not it was ever notable is a different question. Some of the references seem to use it as a landmark, as if they looked for the nearest named spot on the map to descrbe where something take place, or just give a passing mention. I'd like to see more in-depth coverage of Sunflower itself before supporting a Keep. –dlthewave ☎ 16:06, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep ok I just did a bunch more research and added it and I have to get back to real work now but I'm satisfied it's a legit and notable place name if not a major town. it's the middle of nowhere and a pain to get there but it's a place. There's Sunflower Ranger Station (NHRP), the Sunflower Fire in 2012, a derelict bridge there was probably blown up by the Viper Militia (!), it was a stop on a 1940s sheep herding route, it was a stop on a proposed Trans-Arizona Trail, a highway patrolman died in a flood there in 1970, the route to the mine ruins is a popular trail for hikers and crazy off-roaders, etc. jengod (talk) 17:57, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep - as per WP:HEY by Jengod. Onel 5969  TT me 00:40, 18 March 2023 (UTC)


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