Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Super Dimension


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Stifle (talk) 08:46, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Super Dimension

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Not notable, no sources, disputed prod Richard Pinch (talk) 21:38, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete as nominator. The article does not assert notability, and has remained unreferenced for a couple of months.  (A PROD was deleted with a bare assertion of notability.)  Richard Pinch (talk) 21:53, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. One word: Macross.  Need we go on?  If you want sourcing, the production history of the entire Super Dimension series is discussed, in some length, in Robotech Art 1 and/or 3.  76.116.247.15 (talk) 23:57, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep or Merge to Big West Advertising or Macross. I was going to suggest to merge it to Robotech, but the series which compose Robotech don't exactly correspond with Big West's Super Dimension trilogy (since Mospeda was chosen over Orguss). Jonny2x4 (talk) 02:16, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge to Big West Advertising, clean up the merged article, and see if it sinks or swims. Gelmax (talk) 02:45, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. It is a commonly accepted principle that TV series "broadcast nationally by a major network" (like the Super Dimension series) are notable. So I don't see notability being an issue.--Nohansen (talk) 04:06, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment From WP:N If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be a suitable article topic. None are cited or asserted to exist.  There is no mention of any broadcast anywhere or at any time.  For all I can see, the whole article might be WP:OR or just nonsense.  But the issue is notability, according to Wikipedia standards.  Richard Pinch (talk) 06:04, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Translation: You didn't bother to run a simple google search before nominating for afd.  Doing so would have clearly demonstrated series existence, as well as any broadcast information.  Plus I've already asserted the existence of sources in my "keep" vote.  See also WP:PROBLEM.  76.116.247.15 (talk) 10:34, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * No evident of broadcast? I take it you didn't follow the links to the articles on the individual series the trilogy comprises? —Quasirandom (talk) 15:07, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 76.116.247.15, don't put words into my mouth. Of course existence is not the issue, notability is, as I clearly stated.  WP:BURDEN puts the onus on those seeking to include content to provide sources.  It was tagged for sources in June and since then nobody has "bothered" to do so.  If you would care to do so now, please do so.  And no, I didn't follow those links.  It is this article we're discussing, and this article which needs those references.  Richard Pinch (talk) 16:06, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I note that per WP:OUTCOMES, any nationally broadcast television series is considered notable. At that point, all that needs to be done is verify that it's been nationally broadcast. —Quasirandom (talk) 20:13, 15 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Merge to Big West, as it's a sponsorship naming thing. 70.55.200.51 (talk) 12:47, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: I would like to see a source that substantiates that either the producers or critics actually use the name Super Dimension for the trilogy. According to comments above, that should be easy. If one can be found, then keep; withholding !vote for now. —Quasirandom (talk) 15:07, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * ANN trivia (Link) calls Orguss the "second part of The Super Dimension trilogy from Big West"; as does this review from Mania.com (Link), noting that Orguss is "the second of Studio Nue's three Super Dimension shows." A news article on ImaginAsian's weekday morning anime block (Link) mentions the "Super Dimension trilogy" and notes the shared staff between the first two installments. The FAQ at "Macross Compendium" makes the same case (Link).--Nohansen (talk) 16:19, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Thankee. In that case, keep as, essentially, a sort of explanitory disambiguation of the series. —Quasirandom (talk) 14:44, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I'd like to add to the above: See http://www.otakubell.com/LDs/picture.php?/46/category/31 - that's a scan of my Macross movie LD box (an old blurry version, I'm sure I could redo it better).  Feel free to use that image, BTW.  76.116.247.15 (talk) 04:01, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * And on the subject of broadcast: the three series aired back-to-back-to-back from October 3, 1982 to September 30, 1984.--Nohansen (talk) 16:19, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that — do you have sources, and would you like to add the information to the article? Richard Pinch (talk) 20:43, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The Super Dimension Fortress Macross, The Super Dimension Century Orguss, and The Super Dimension Cavalry Southern Cross already have the relevant info. You could duplicate it I guess, but I don't see the point.  76.116.247.15 (talk) 04:01, 16 September 2008 (UTC)


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