Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Super Mario Bros. Z (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to List of unofficial Mario media. (non-admin closure) ASTIG😎  (ICE T • ICE CUBE) 01:00, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Super Mario Bros. Z
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This is an article about web animation series featuring characters (appearing unofficially / in violation of copyright and trademark) from Nintendo and Sega games. While view numbers are quite high, sources cited are mostly blogs, with the best of the lot being a few video game sites, but nothing that I would consider to be a reliable source. It has had a notability tag for about 6 months which has not stimulated better sourcing. I've searched myself and I haven't found anything better than what's there. Previous AFD from 2007 resulted in a delete. I don't believe this topic meets WP:NFILM, WP:NWEB or WP:GNG and the article should be deleted (again). MrOllie (talk) 21:18, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 21:42, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 21:43, 15 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment -- the fact that the characters appeared unofficially should have no bearing on its notability. matt91486 (talk) 09:40, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete — Nothing here that constitutes significant coverage. Most sources here are primary or flat-out unreliable. Namcokid  47  17:18, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of unofficial Mario media. While the coverage from the few reliable sources like Nintendo Life is not significant enough to support a standalone article per WP:GNG, they are by no means trivial upon closer examination. The nominator acknowledged that view numbers are quite high, so the topic does meet WP:CCOS as a baseline and should be covered in an article that discuss unofficial media about the Mario franchise. I do agree with matt91486 that unofficial appearances by trademarked characters or entirely fan made creations using elements of trademarked IP's have no positive or negative bearing on notability with regards what Wikipedia could or should cover; Bowsette is a good example of that. Haleth (talk) 06:49, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment - It wasn't my intent to suggest that this should be deleted because it is unofficial, I just thought it was important to note this so users conducting sourcing searches would not expect to see the kind of PR that an official Nintendo production would have. - MrOllie (talk) 14:35, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of unofficial Mario media. I agree with Haleth above, that there are some reliable sources, but they mainly discuss the return of the series and the Patreon take down. Much of this article is unsourced, but it does meet the baseline for notability, it would be a STUB so it should be moved. Przemysl15 (talk) 01:34, 22 April 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.