Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Super Single


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to Gavin Trippe. Spartaz Humbug! 16:57, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Super Single
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Super Single was an idea (a very cool one, to be sure) for a new motorcycle racing class somebody had three years ago. It got two prominent blog posts and then went nowhere. The article violates WP:CRYSTAL and WP:GNG. Note that the name for the proposed class has changed from Super Single to Formula 450. --Dbratland (talk) 20:18, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:28, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge into Supermono as a historical note to the existing article? — Brianhe (talk) 19:56, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
 * The problem there is that there is no actual connection between the European race class which exists and the non-existent proposed US class. The only place I can think of where a mention actually makes sense is on Gavin Trippe, which has not yet been written. I doubt anybody writing an article about Mr. Trippe would fail to mention his current project. --Dbratland (talk) 20:15, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 22:22, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Created Gavin Trippe, merged useful text into it. — Brianhe (talk) 17:43, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Apologies in advance if I don't get to it. I have far more new ideas for projects than I have time for. --Dbratland (talk) 21:02, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, I've done some expansion on Gavin Trippe and the F450 section has been fleshed out. As you can see, the name Super Single was dropped and the proposed Formula 450 series never quite got completely of the ground. The USGPRU was interested but didn't do much after 2009. The AMA liked the concept, but went and created a wholly different event, using purpose-built, single-manufacturer bikes not owned by the riders, rather than Trippe's idea of privateer club racers converting motocrossers themselves. Who knows what will happen next? Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, and therefore I don't think redirecting Super Single (or Formula 450 or F-450 to Gavin Trippe makes very much sense. I still think we should delete and if something develops in the future, we can adjust as appropriate.--Dbratland (talk) 00:06, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions.  -- Jclemens-public (talk) 05:58, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
 * By, copying this article's content elsewhere, Dbratland has fatally undermined xyr own deletion nomination. The project's copyright licences now require that this edit history be kept.  If you want some content and its an edit history deleted, you cannot use that content and its edit history, Dbratland.  Delete and don't use, or use and keep.  Pick either having your cake or eating it.  You cannot have both.  Uncle G (talk) 13:38, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
 * WTF? I can't tell if you're joking or not. First, the diff you linked to was done by, not me. Second, Copying within Wikipedia says right in the second sentence, "In these cases, supplementary attribution must be provided by either a link back to the source page, if available, or a list of authors." Keeping the original page is not the only means of providing attribution. And third, none of the copied text was kept in Gavin Trippe after a day or two of editing, except for a fair use quote from another source which is not attributed to the Wikipedian editor anyway. And I don't own this deletion nomination: I'm just as interested in the best possible outcome as each of the other participants, and have nothing at stake in having the page deleted.--Dbratland (talk) 18:03, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
 * (And the writer needing attribution for the four sentences in question? None other than Brianhe. ) --Dbratland (talk) 18:32, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Whew, I hope I didn't complicate things. I was trying to follow standard article merge procedures and templates to save the important facts from Super Single in anticipation of its demise.  BTW I support merge/redirect to Gavin Trippe, obviously. Brianhe (talk) 04:17, 27 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Gavin Trippe. As this is basically the idea of a notable person that has so far just stayed an idea, that's the best place for the information, which is where it's been merged already. No harm in keeping a redirect, that avoids any arguments over preserving edit histories, and should anyone want to use "Super Single" for another article, we can sort that out as and when we need to. Chris Neville-Smith (talk) 17:50, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.