Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Supreme Grand Master Azrael


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The result was   redirect to Space Marines (Warhammer 40,000) . No independent notability. Black Kite 23:51, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Supreme Grand Master Azrael

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This character does not establish notability independent of its series. Without coverage in reliable third party sources, it is just made up of unnecessary plot summary and original research. TTN (talk) 23:29, 20 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete no independent reliable sources, not notable, likely fancruft Double Blue  (Talk) 00:21, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Warhammer 40000 per MuZemike. Double Blue  (Talk) 02:27, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per DoubleBlue, no reliable sources and nonnotable. --Banime (talk) 00:50, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Was he Gargamel's cat in The Smurfs? Mandsford (talk) 01:20, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Redirect to Warhammer 40000 Space Marines (Warhammer 40,000) per WP:NOT as well as lacking significant coverage in verifiable, third-party sources. MuZemike (talk) 01:32, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Note — Changed redirection based on the below's recommendation. It does seem to make more sense while looking at that article. Also changed to a weak redirect as seeing someone search for this term is very unlikely. MuZemike (talk) 07:32, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game related deletions. MuZemike (talk) 01:32, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete as original research and plot recapitulation of a non-notable fictional subject. You can add a redirect or not.  It doesn't seem to be a likely search term, but you might as well.  If you do redirect, the target should be to Space Marines (Warhammer 40,000), not Warhammer 40,000. Protonk (talk) 04:25, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete I was going to say to merge into list of minor Warhammer 40,000 characters, but such an article doesn't exist. It might be a good start to getting rid of some of the most ridiculously crufty articles. No notability outside the universe, and I'm not even sure it has much notability inside it either. Tombomp (talk/contribs) 20:51, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge into an appropriate article for the minor characters, making one if necessary--or if relevant, finding one to undelete--I have not kept track of the large number of uncoordinated deletions.  This should be the usual way of dealing with these characters. DGG (talk) 04:41, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
 * WP:ADHOM. MuZemike (talk) 06:50, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
 * How is that relevant to DGG's comment? Glass  Cobra  15:01, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Seems like more of an argument against the nom rather than for or against the article, but I admit to stretching it out a bit. MuZemike (talk) 15:44, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Game-related deletion discussions.   —--Craw-daddy &#124; T &#124; 07:01, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Redirect to an appropriate List of... or the main Warhammer article. Do not merge as content is in-universe plot/trivia. No need to delete unless one of the die-hards sweeps through reverts the redirect. --EEMIV (talk) 14:27, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge per DGG. Glass  Cobra  15:01, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. Plot summary and fictional detail just like the rest of the Warhammercuft that's been in AFD lately. No evidence of notability via substantial coverage in independent sources. I don't see this being a likely search term so a redirect is unnecessary. Doctorfluffy (robe and wizard hat) 21:22, 25 September 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.