Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Surel (2nd nomination)


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The result was DELETE. postdlf (talk) 05:38, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Surel
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Fails WP:MUSIC. No press coverage of her music; no indication of chart success. The only Google news hits are two references to domestic abuse complaints against her husband, an NFL player. The talk page claims she charted on Billboard, but Billboard's website doesn't support that. (Don't be fooled by Google books hits for 'Billboard Surel'. These look like OCR errors for Al B. Sure!.) The article does provide one link to a review of one of her albums, but it's not a particularly reliable or notable source. Nominated previously in 2009; that discussion reached no consensus. Pburka (talk) 22:58, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete Does not meet WP:MUSICBIO criteria. No references that establish notability, and the Billboard reference does not load for myself or for others, and Google gives no relevant third-party sites. - SudoGhost (talk) 00:08, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment There are issues with the Billboard database that make it unreliable as a negative result. Check the result for Harry Chapin, for example: - Dravecky (talk) 12:23, 24 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete - No coverage in reliable sources. I can find no article about her and her music, nor any critical reviews of her albums in reliable sources.  The claim for a charting hit is unsupported by sources.  Is Urban Ac even a Billboard chart? -- Whpq (talk) 16:25, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:06, 24 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete - I can't find coverage in reliable sources either, save for a passing mention in the Dallas Morning News. Which is interesting, because there's a longer quote on her web page from the Dallas Morning News (no detailed cite given), that *doesn't* come up, even though the passing mention does.  A similar thing happens with the Sister 2 Sister web site quote.  Add in the Billboard verification issue, and I'm getting a bit suspicious.  --joe deckertalk to me 18:32, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - The assertion of charting on Billboard is soemthing from the article's talk page, and is not in the article, and I also did not see such a claim when I visited the artist's web page. -- Whpq (talk) 18:41, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Gotcha, thanks for the clarification. Seemed worth taking a look, but it sounds like it's not accurate.  --joe deckertalk to me 23:21, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete: Unable to find significant coverage in reliable sources independent of the subject of this unsourced BLP. J04n(talk page) 17:02, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
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