Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Survivor: Winners at War


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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 14:36, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Survivor: Winners at War

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Article uses sources from a singular spoiler site, Inside Survivor. The other site sourced, Reality Blurred, also uses information from Inside Survivor. The screenshot Instagram post with a picture of a logo also cannot be used as a valid source, since 1) the person in question is clearly a tourist who just met Steven Bradbury, not affiliated with CBS, 2) does not state "Winners at War" is the fortieth season", and 3) is a screenshot of the Instagram post, which could mean that it make doctored (either by Photoshop or through the Source Editor). As suggested the deletion by . ApprenticeFan   work  08:00, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions.  ApprenticeFan   work  08:00, 10 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Draftify. Upcoming TV show, not notable yet, may likely be notable once it airs. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 08:19, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. A similar article (Wikipedia: Articles for deletion/Survivor: Edge of Extinction) was deleted since not many people were talking about it and it was still unconfirmed. From a simple google search of "Survivor season 40", many sources claim the fortieth season of Survivor is Winners at War (or at least an all-winners season). Some sources are related to Survivor and some are not, but the "main source" has proven to be reliable over the years. I must stress that the main source is not original research because it gets its information from Survivor itself or workers in Survivor, proving itself to be reliable. Jayab314  10:15, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Literally that same source was used for the early creation of Edge of Extinction, and was considered in violation of WP:RS. Inside Survivor also calls its articles rumors. In what way is a rumor a reliable source? Also, if there are more sources, then why weren't they used in conjunction with Inside Survivor? Telling someone to Google "Survivor Season 40" is not useful. Sinjoh2015 (talk) 10:35, 10 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete. As per my argument that ApprenticeFan copied above. In addition when Edge of Extinction was created (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Survivor: Edge of Extinction), it also faced a similar issue as all it used was a single source from Inside Survivor. The other "sources" used all linked back to Inside Survivor, and Inside Survivor was considered to not be WP:RS. Sinjoh2015 (talk) 10:35, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete: All work on the article is WP:ORIGINALRESEARCH and nothing has come from a confirmed source, merely spoiler sites (regardless of their accuracy) 135.196.1.74 (talk) 11:54, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete: It has always been past precedent to make a new article on an upcoming Survivor season, once CBS has officially released information about it. No matter how accurate Inside Survivor has been in the past, there are not an official source of information. In addition, all Survivor Season 40 info originated/cites information from Inside Survivor, so the argument that "other sources" have information on Season 40 is false. VietPride10 (talk) 03:45, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete: Ok I now understand that it was made too soon and is not necessarily reliable, but I have it in my sandbox for when it gets confirmed. Jayab314  22:21, 15 September 2019 (UTC)


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