Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Surya Roshni Limited


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep. (non-admin closure) Pratyush (talk) 13:35, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

Surya Roshni Limited

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I am unable to locate any significant coverage with in-depth information on the company and containing independent content, references to date fail the criteria for establishing notability, topic therefore fails GNG/WP:NCORP  HighKing++ 19:43, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. Lightburst (talk) 20:58, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Lightburst (talk) 20:58, 24 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete as per nom. -Hatchens (talk) 09:38, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep This is one of the oldest electrical companies in India. There are many sources that cover the company's operations and history -    . Older sources may not be available on the internet but they do exist and ensure that this passes NCORP and GNG. M4DU7 (talk) 16:20, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. It's commonly referred to as 'Surya' than its full name, which I believe might be causing issues locating sources. That said, it's one of the oldest, premier, billion-dollar conglomerates in India that makes everything from steel to LEDs. This company has had so much impact on corporate India that its founder JP Agarwal was recently awarded Padma Shri-one of India's highest civilian awards for his impact in the field of trade and industry. The company is fairly notable and thus I believe the article should be kept. -TheodoreIndiana (talk) 04:55, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , the article has B.D. Argarwal as it's founder, I'm guessing JP is their child? Notability isn't inherited, so while the award is probably what pushed JP to be notable, it's not helpful for the company.  Ravensfire  (talk) 16:51, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , I'll have some look over sources and present better ones. If citations are a problem then you can mention them within the article WP:CITENEED. Regardless, I'll give it a look and bring better sources in. TheodoreIndiana (talk) 02:50, 5 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Speedy keep per, it easily fulfils WP:GNG and WP:NCORP. Azuredivay (talk) 01:53, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , At least two of those are questionable sources. No idea on the first source - not much information about the publisher, but nothing immediately jumped out as a vanity press.  Nothing in google books, so I'm hoping you've got a copy of the book and could given some information about the coverage of Surya Roshni Limited.  Just saying the source helps notability and nothing else doesn't give much information. The second is a self-published investment magazine from an investment advisory company. It could be a short blurb, could be something long, but it's absolutely self-published so questionable on helping notability, at best.  The third is from a list of investments from various steel companies in developing economies.  There are multiple mentions of the company, but it's a short blurb about the exact same investment, in english and in french.  At best this would support that in 2010 they started a memoradum of understanding.  That's it.  Not helpful for notability.  Ravensfire  (talk) 23:51, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. Absolutely fails WP:INDEPTH & WP:NCORP. 119.157.244.206 (talk) 20:11, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * — 119.157.244.206 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Strike out vote by blocked IP sock. Gotitbro (talk) 21:17, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jack Frost (talk) 07:02, 2 July 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete Existing article sources are nearly all primary and the one that isn't is a mere company summary listing. Nothing there to support notability.  The three sources given above aren't much help, two of them are flat out not helpful and the third is not widely available so the benefit is questionable at best.  A google search turned up more company summary listings but that was it.  No good articles focusing on the company itself.   Ravensfire  (talk) 16:49, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep The article isn't very good, but it could be retargeted to say "Surya is an Indian manufacturer of electrical products, including LEDs and fans". A news search for "Surya LED" brought up more promising hits like this one and this one. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  10:33, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   18:39, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep- This article just needs more sources. Not that it's bad or anything, but the sources should be more reliable. JTZegers (talk) 18:51, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep the article is a  and is notable. It is a well known company engaged in the production of lighting equipment in India. ~ Amkgp  💬  15:08, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I have added/updated with The Hindu BusinessLine, The Economic Times, The Financial Express and Business Standard sources apart from the existing ones ~ Amkgp  💬  15:38, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 *  Keep Surya is an old and existing Indian company and i found enough independent reliable and significant coverage that passes WP:GNG.  D My Son  04:40, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. This is a quoted stock (with an ADR on the US), and has analyst reports from the smaller houses like Angel Broking here Surya Roshni. Per Elecom, I do think we need a new WP:NLISTEDCORP notability criteria for quoted companies, who almost by definition, are in the public domain and tracked daily by the markets? Britishfinance (talk) 11:37, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , I support your proposal ~ Amkgp  💬  12:44, 18 July 2020 (UTC)


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