Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Susan Stratton


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The result was   delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 01:43, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Susan Stratton

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President of a political party at the Canadian provincial level, with only a single primary source for verifiability. WP:POLITICIAN allows for the public leader of a political party — i.e. the person who would actually hold the title of premier or prime minister if the party won the election — to potentially be considered notable, but even that still requires reliable sourcing. And it has never been automatically extended to people who hold leadership roles inside a party's internal org chart, either; merely being president of a political party confers notability only if the person can be properly sourced as a reasonably prominent public figure in their own right. Previously prodded, but the prod was disputed over a potential misunderstanding of the distinction between a party "leader" and a party "president". Delete. Bearcat (talk) 18:05, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 18:42, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:43, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
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 * Comment - I removed the prod, based on a faulty memory that we've kept these in the past, until I recalled that we had redirected similar articles at Articles for deletion/Green Party of Alberta candidates, 2004 provincial election and Articles for deletion/List of Green party leaders in Canada. Those deletion discussions were not on all fours, so this is really a sui generis case.  My inclination is also to re-direct this one, but I'd to see what others think. Bearian (talk) 21:07, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
 * The problem here is identifying a viable redirect target. Most of the "Green Party candidates in Alberta provincial elections" don't exist at all (Alberta not being a province where any of the editors who actively believe in the value of these lists are actually located), and the article (a) states that she ran in multiple provincial elections, not just one, and (b) fails as written to actually identify which elections. And a party president isn't the same thing as a party leader, so List of Green party leaders in Canada isn't a viable or appropriate redirect target either. So while I'm not fundamentally opposed to redirection in principle, there's no easy way to figure out where such a redirect should point to in this instance. Bearcat (talk) 01:23, 13 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Yunshui 雲 &zwj; 水  15:51, 16 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete. I don't think a president of a small provincial party qualifies as WP:POLITICIAN's "sub-national office". Certainly just running for office (and failing to get elected) doesn't. If a redirect is in order, then probably Alberta Greens would be the best target, as it covers the time when she was deputy leader (2004-06) and party president (2006-08). Clarityfiend (talk) 19:41, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete - president of the party is not leader of the party so I don't think that a redirect to a list of leaders would be appropriate. -- Whpq (talk) 19:02, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.