Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Susie Shellenberger


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Opinion changed after article improvements towards keeping this article. Liz Read! Talk! 05:54, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

Susie Shellenberger

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Likely fails WP:GNG and WP:NAUTHOR. Supposedly "has written over 40 books, which have sold more than 1.5 million combined copies", but I cannot find any proper reviews in decent sources. Could be a redirect to Sisterhood Magazine, which might be more notable. Edwardx (talk) 14:52, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Authors, Women,  and Christianity.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 15:15, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment I can find a lot of mentions, but no obvious profiles of her as a person. It seems Brio (magazine) might actually be a better target, as she was editor there longer and that magazine seemed to have more cultural impact during its heyday. Jclemens (talk) 15:59, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete: WP:BEFORE (web) returns the booksellers and reviews. WP:BEFORE (books) returns titles and books.google.com - there is not a lot about this author. As per nom, very likely fails WP:GNG and WP:NAUTHOR. --Whiteguru
 * If not kept, Merge to Sisterhood Magazine, of which she is founding editor. However as Brio (magazine) is also a potential target, perhaps the better solution is to Keep.  1.5M books in print is also a notable achievement.  I am used to hearing of books with a print-run of 500 750 or 1000.  Peterkingiron (talk) 14:51, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
 *  Delete  - A conflict of interest Undisclosed paid editing WP:UPE likely by of Premier Studios or their employee(s). The subject of the article does not meet our notability criteria for WP:NAUTHOR or WP:GNG. Netherzone (talk) 15:50, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Changing my !vote to Keep per WP:HEY improvements to sourcing by . Netherzone (talk) 16:23, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:21, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment I have no thoughts on notability yet, but I note that the Sisterhood Magazine has also been posed for deletion above. DaffodilOcean (talk) 20:19, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep - I have spent some time at ProQuest and newspapers.com, and found news articles on her and her books. The 2004 news article is significant coverage of Shellenberger, as is the 2009 article . I also added reviews of her books in the newspapers, and removed fluff. DaffodilOcean (talk) 03:06, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep: Thanks to additional sources.--Ipigott (talk) 06:57, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep in view of the news sources about the author detailed above and the book reviews added to the article so that WP:GNG is passed and deletion is unnecessary in my view, Atlantic306 (talk) 00:17, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.