Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sutcliffe Jugend


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was KEEP. -Splash talk 02:23, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Sutcliffe Jugend
Googling around suggests to me that this group may not meet the notability criteria for WP:MUSIC Tom Lillis 03:39, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment The Band's proper name seems to be Sutcliffe Jügend (with umlaut). Google seems to indicate that this band has a significant underground following and may have been pioneers in their genre.  This discography shows that they released on least six indy labels.  That said, the article as it is is next to worthless.  -Meegs 05:39, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment Perhaps it should be recreated with the appropriate diacriticals, then, and the current article turned into a redirect? The problem is, I don't know what one might recreate it with; the content is nearly beyond repair.  Tom Lillis 08:51, 1 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Delete, vanity. --Ezeu 11:01, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. It's not a very high-quality article, but notability seems to be satisfied (see the |JUGEND&uid=CAW030512010913&samples=1&sql=11:5hrsa9rgu23s~T2 Allmusic page and Google). and I don't see any foundation for the claim of vanity. With some cleanup and wikification it could be a decent article. I've tried to fix some of the more egregious misspellings and awkward wordings, but there's a way to go. If it is keepable, arguments about quality should go on the talk page instead of here. Note: the official band site does not use the ü. However, to complicate things, the website says "Sutcliffe Jugend have decided to use the name SJ for all future recordings and Live Assaults", so maybe that's where the information should live. (Disclaimer: I've never heard of this band before, so this is not a fannish defense.) rodii 14:22, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep per rodii. Zordrac 00:26, 2 December 2005 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.