Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sutton SignWriting Unicode Sequences for 1D8E4


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. postdlf (talk) 20:30, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Sutton SignWriting Unicode Sequences for 1D8E4

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This is a discussion of this article and all others on SignWriting by Slevinski. Not notable enough to be on Wikipedia, and should be merged into SignWriting. Eat me, I'm a red bean (take a huge bite) 01:10, 30 June 2015 (UTC) A partial list of articles nominated for deletion:
 * ‎Sutton SignWriting Unicode Sequences for 1D8E3
 * ‎Sutton SignWriting Unicode Sequences for 1D8E2
 * Sutton SignWriting Unicode Sequences for 1D8E1
 * Sutton SignWriting Unicode Sequences for 1D8E0
 * and all other articles beginning with "Sutton SignWriting Unicode Sequences for". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eat me, I'm a red bean (talk • contribs) 01:16, 30 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Consolidate Sutton SignWriting in Unicode might be a nice article to create, but this overload of lists is unwaranted. There are at least a gross of them! I don't believe this has been done for other languages. Happy Squirrel (talk) 01:42, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I have only created some of the pages. If completed, there would be 652 individual charts.  You can see all of the links on the main Sutton_SignWriting_(Unicode_block).  The blue links have been created.  The reds have not.  If consolidated, the page would be over 8 MB.  This is not for an individual language, but for the SignWriting script which can be used to write any sign language.  Currently, dozens of sign languages use this script.  There are over 100 sign languages that are recognized.  I thought individual pages would be more economical in size.  I can create a consolidated page if desired.  We have been discussing the charts on User_talk:BabelStone.    Slevinski (talk) 02:09, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * 's proposed 652 charts seem excessive. I like the chart idea to demonstrate how the fill and rotators work but couldn't that be demonstrated by a handful of charts instead of an exhaustive, complete set showing all valid combinations? DRMcCreedy (talk) 06:27, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * The simple script I used is available online to create whatever charts might be useful. Enter the code, press submit, and then press save page.  This will preview the page in Wikipedia.  You can copy the chart markup from the preview. Slevinski (talk) 13:12, 30 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete all per WP:NOTMANUAL and WP:INDISCRIMINATE. We already have where an encyclopedic overview can be given. Q VVERTYVS  (hm?) 15:07, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete all per the above reasoning by Qwertyus. &mdash;&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T&middot;E&middot;C) 00:50, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Language-related deletion discussions. North America1000 14:34, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Computing-related deletion discussions. North America1000 14:35, 2 July 2015 (UTC)


 * If Wikipedia is not a good home for these article, perhaps Wiktionary might be better. There is already a page on Wiktionary with a listing of the code points and links to individual pages.  The articles would need to be reformatted, but it might work.  For the Sutton_SignWriting_(Unicode_block) page, the links for each of the base symbols could link to the Wiktionary articles. Slevinski (talk) 14:52, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete all. As far as I can tell, these pages contain nearly no information. It's just a huge number of lists with combinations of symbols, with no explanation of what the combination might mean. If possible meanings in different sign languages were actually added then it wouldn't belong here anyway since we are not a dictionary, not even for normal written English. Some pages like Sutton SignWriting Unicode Sequences for 1D84D show invalid combinations but that isn't worth up to 652 pages. The table headings contain information like "U+1D84D SIGNWRITING HAND-FLAT HEEL FIVE FINGERS SPREAD", but that information is for a single symbol and not the combinations, so it should be combined in a single list somewhere. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:07, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
 * The table heading "SIGNWRITING HAND-FLAT HEEL FIVE FINGERS SPREAD" is for all of the symbols. The table displays the various rotations and palm facings for this hand shape.  It helps to have the fonts installed.  The charts are much more interesting than a groups of empty boxes.  If you'd rather not install the SignWriting 2010 fonts on your computer, you can include some custom CSS that will load the fonts from a CDN.  Instructions on my user page. Slevinski (talk) 20:12, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete All: not contested. Please delete all of these pages.  There is no reason for further discussion.  I believe Wiktionary is a proper place for these pages.  If not, I have created the SignWriting Character Viewer that will serve a similar purpose.  Regards, Slevinski (talk) 20:12, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Pleased to see that the creator has found a home for his work. Carrite (talk) 04:02, 5 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete All - I bumped into these in the New Articles queue. Not encyclopedic, not sourced, and not notable under our guidelines. I'm sorry that someone went to so much trouble. Carrite (talk) 04:00, 5 July 2015 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.