Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Suzy Miller


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus.  Sandstein  13:06, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Suzy Miller

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Only one source actually directed relates to the individual. However, being married to notable people does not make you notable. Acting career has not brought any accolades as well. ALongStay (talk) 03:05, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Weak keep - Subject is referenced in multiple reliable sources. Seems like she is most notable for her modeling career and of course being married to two famous people. Meatsgains (talk) 03:12, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep for Now: This article needs a lot of help. But, we could try to find out more about her biography first.  There may be some information to yield.  We could see if there is more to say about her acting career.  Time will tell. Garagepunk66 (talk) 03:22, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
 * that is the point, I looked for additional sources and they are not any. Saying time will tell is like saying the article is not notable, but maybe a miracle will make it someday. That is not how this works, so your argument is baseless. As the thought-out comment below notes, she is noticed because of her husbands, but is not notable on her own, which is all that matters.ALongStay (talk) 03:57, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. clpo13(talk) 08:47, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. clpo13(talk) 08:47, 23 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete as per WP:NOTINHERITED. She married famous men and seems to have done some modeling, but is not notable on her own. LaMona (talk) 19:44, 24 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment':Susan Hunt (born Susan Miller) has, indeed, acted in movies and she had roles in Twenty Nine (1969) and The Wild Geese (1978). []  Her role in The Wild Geese appears to be minor, but her role in Twenty Nine appears to be greater, as she appears near the top of the list. []  That needs to go into her filmography.  If the article stays, which now it should, then could be re-named (moved to) "Suzan Hunt." Garagepunk66 (talk) 04:46, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Ron Howard directed a film in 2013 about the intrigue surrounding racecar driver Hunt, and the character of Suzi Hunt (Miller), played by Olivia Wilde, factors highly it it. It could be said that in addition to her acting, Miller has achieved a certain level of notoriety--enough notoriety to make her a topic in her own right aside from whatever else she has done--but this all of this needs to be better developed in the article. Garagepunk66 (talk) 10:16, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
 * keep Subject of many independent articles including, , , and was a playboy playmate as she is listed on List of Playboy Playmates of 1972.  Passes GNG CrazyAces489 (talk) 05:46, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete - Very obviously the references are only mentioning the subject in context to her more notable husbands. Notability is not inherited and her acting career is of little significance.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 20:20, 27 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:RECENTISM if Richard Burton dumped Elizabeth Taylor for her, and a $1 million divorce settlement between Hunt and Burton, heck, the notoriety alone meets GNG. We can't find material on people in the pre-internet era as easily, but she also was known as Suzy or Susan Hunt, and there's yet more stuff under that name here:, , ,    Montanabw (talk)  04:46, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 01:45, 29 December 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spirit of Eagle (talk) 05:50, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete This article is an egregious BLP violation that conflates information about Hunt wife #1 Suzy Miller with Hunt wife #2 Sarah Lomax, who is the one who is actually battling breast cancer, according to trashy tabloid, The Daily Mail. Miller's film career was trivial and her only claim to fame was marrying two famous men. It is an insult to both women (and our readers) to host such a wildly inaccurate article here. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  06:54, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Question, how sure are you that the Susan Miller who was a 1972 Playboy Playmate is this Suzy Miller? The first is identified as American and this one is obviously British. "Susan/Suzy" and "Miller" are exceptionally common names. Have we pulled three different women into a BLP swamp? Cullen328  Let's discuss it  07:04, 5 January 2016 (UTC)


 * CrazyAcres489 was unfortunately hounded off Wikipedia. I stepped into it here. You actually stepped into some of it on my talk page! --MurderByDeletionism"bang!" 01:25, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
 * First off, CrazyAces was not hounded off Wikipedia (though everyone has heard enough of him saying it). He was asked dozens, if not, hundreds (literally!) of times to make simple improvements to how he wrote and edited articles. What he called hounding, everyone, including admins, called trying to help. CrazyAces leaves whenever he faces scrutiny or blocks for disruption, both of which are allowed here. As for what you "stepped into", it was me suggesting you write based on policy, not the silly belief all AfDs are some form of revenge. Other users agreed, so why not give it a try?TheGracefulSlick (talk) 04:26, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Odd that you are the one answering this! Feeling guilty? --MurderByDeletionism</i><sup style="color:black;">"bang!" 08:45, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
 * somehow I knew you would try and twist my statement to make it seem negative. I don't feel guilt for trying to correct errors that can easily be fixed if a user, like yourself, puts in just the most insignificant amount of effort to do so. Unless of course your definition of "guilt" is amending these mistakes, than I guess I'm overflowing with guilt. Now please, either comment something relevant to the AFD or I recommend you stop taking up space here.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 21:29, 10 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Information Playboy's web page about the 1972 Playmate says that she was born in New York. Sources about the Burton/Hunt bride call her British. On the other hand, both were very tall and born in the late 1940s. Did she hop the Atlantic? If that was the case, I suspect that more recent sources would mention her nationality change. I suspect that they are different people with similar names, heights, and birth dates. <b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328  Let's discuss it  07:44, 5 January 2016 (UTC)


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