Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Svante Thunberg


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The result was Withdrawn. Withdrawn by nominator's helper with the reason Withdrawn by nominator. The IP who was agitating for this seems unhappy that I've nominated it. Accordingly I'm withdrawing this. Obviously without prejudice to anyone else keen to delete it, but that's the last time I'll be assisting that IP. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 06:21, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Svante Thunberg

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Svante Thunberg is the husband of Swedish opera singer Malena Ernman and the father of climate activist Greta Thunberg - both obviously notable people. Svante Thunberg was an actor until giving up his career to care for his kid(s). Basically all mentions of him in reliable sources are throwaway lines about "... the father of Greta Thunberg", or before Greta became famous, "... the husband of Malena Ernman" (in Swedish media). I have not been able to unearth any significant, non-trivial coverage of him either as an actor or an author or indeed anything else, outside of "dad" and "husband". (I'm taking the liberty to add a short summary up here in the top since I'm the one who requested the nomination per WP: AFDHOW2, but User:Andy Dingley forgot to paste in my rationale for the nomination.)110.165.186.42 (talk) 13:43, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

On request of Andy Dingley (talk) 11:18, 25 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep I've seen no plausible rationale for deleting this. Andy Dingley (talk) 11:19, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
 * If you didn't bother to look at the rationale provided, maybe you should abstain from voting.110.165.186.42 (talk) 14:36, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Then maybe I should withdraw it altogether. Thankyou. Andy Dingley (talk) 15:06, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment My motivation for the nomination (which I posted on the talk page) is that this article seems to fail the basic notability criteria. There doesn't seem to be any significant non-trivial coverage of Thunberg. I checked the Swedish Wikipedia page and even there, all the links are just "databases" proving he's appeared in this or that stage show/movie/TV show, or articles about either his wife Malena Ernman or daughter Greta Thunberg (both who are clearly notable). He's appeared in some productions but it's not clear to me that the roles he played in them were "significant" (per WP:NACTOR).
 * I tried looking him up on Google and while I get hits for several news articles where his name appears even before Greta became famous, they all seem to be trivial mentions as "Malena Ernman's husband"). A google news search for
 * "svante thunberg" -"greta" -"malena"
 * receives 1 casual mention of another man sharing his name/surname complaining about traffic noise in Stockholm.
 * A google search for
 * "svante thunberg är" or "svane thunberg har" (i.e. "... is" "... has")  -"greta" -"malena"
 * receives two mentions of other people sharing the same name, one inventor, another unclear, no mention whatsoever of acting.
 * I also want to add that this nomination isn't about trying to "get to Greta" so I hope everyone will keep a cool head. Greta and her mother Malena are obviously notable, but I don't see a case for Svante's notability and I've made a good effort to find any evidence that he might actually be, but failed.110.165.186.42 (talk) 12:28, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
 * "svante thunberg är" or "svane thunberg har" (i.e. "... is" "... has")  -"greta" -"malena"
 * receives two mentions of other people sharing the same name, one inventor, another unclear, no mention whatsoever of acting.
 * I also want to add that this nomination isn't about trying to "get to Greta" so I hope everyone will keep a cool head. Greta and her mother Malena are obviously notable, but I don't see a case for Svante's notability and I've made a good effort to find any evidence that he might actually be, but failed.110.165.186.42 (talk) 12:28, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
 * receives two mentions of other people sharing the same name, one inventor, another unclear, no mention whatsoever of acting.
 * I also want to add that this nomination isn't about trying to "get to Greta" so I hope everyone will keep a cool head. Greta and her mother Malena are obviously notable, but I don't see a case for Svante's notability and I've made a good effort to find any evidence that he might actually be, but failed.110.165.186.42 (talk) 12:28, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I also want to add that this nomination isn't about trying to "get to Greta" so I hope everyone will keep a cool head. Greta and her mother Malena are obviously notable, but I don't see a case for Svante's notability and I've made a good effort to find any evidence that he might actually be, but failed.110.165.186.42 (talk) 12:28, 25 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Note to nominator - You are the nominator. So you can not vote, I recommend you change it to a Comment. As your nomination is a vote in itself. BabbaQ (talk) 14:50, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the headsup. I changed it to "comment". 110.165.186.42 (talk) 15:08, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 11:21, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sweden-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 11:21, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 11:22, 25 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep - I see no rationale for deletion. Clearly meets WP:GNG. Per sourcing which is good. Established acting career.BabbaQ (talk) 12:44, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
 * If he has an established acting career, could you please post an example of any non-trivial coverage of it? Because there's none in the article as it is now. Can you find any coverage of him that's not related to his daughter or wife, let alone significant, non-trivial coverage? Because I haven't been able to find anything outside of automated ImDB type stuff. 110.165.186.42 (talk) 12:47, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment The sources in the article are currently as follows:
 * 1) An article about his daughter where there's a trivial mention of him and his wife becoming vegans because of her. Not significant. Trivial.
 * 2) an article about his daughter which mentions in one line her father was with her on the trans-Atlantic boat trip. Not significant. Trivial.
 * 3) and 4) are from the Swedish population registry. Obviously trivial.
 * 5) is a database of the imdb type, but for Swedish theatre "Dramaten", showing Thunberg has appeared in 3 plays, once as an extra, once as a choir member, and once as a character called "Ettan" in Peter Pan (unclear which character this is, but most likely not a major one. No mention of a character called "Ettan" in the Swedish Peter Pan Wiki article). Judging from this source, he does certainly not seem to have ever be an established theatre actor.
 * 6) is a newspaper article not available online and unverified, with the title: "Åtta av 567 fick chansen", "Eight out of 567 people got the oppurtunity". It seems to have been an article mentioning he was one of few accepted either to Gothenburg university or Dramaten. Trivial.
 * 7) 8) 9) Imdb and Imdb type entries without any further comment or text on the actor whatsoever. Trivial
 * 10) 11) interviews with Thunberg's wife where he is mentioned several times. His wife (Malena) talks about her home life and mentions how her husband gave up his career to take care of the children while she's on tour (as an opera singer). The most signifcant coverage of the bunch, but still entirely in relation to his wife, and certainly not evidence he had a notable career as an actor.
 * 12) Review (published in a Swedish newspaper) of the book he wrote with his wife and daughter. One mention of his "character" in the book, no further mentioning of him.
 * It should be obvious that as it currently stands, the article does most definitely not meet WP:GNG and especially not WP:NACTOR or WP:AUTHOR.110.165.186.42 (talk) 13:12, 25 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Weak delete I'm not seeing sufficient notability independent of his daughter or wife. OhNo itsJamie Talk 13:36, 25 September 2019 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.