Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Svetlana Anikey


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The result was keep. Spartaz Humbug! 09:19, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Svetlana Anikey

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Promotional article for a non notable actress who fails to satisfy WP:NACTOR & lacks in-depth significant coverage in reliable sources independent of them. A before search turns up nothing concrete. There are currently two sources used in the article. The first source used appears to be a CV bank where anyone can upload their achievements whilst the second source used in the article is an interview hence isn’t independent of the subject hence both have no value to WP: GNG. Celestina007 (talk) 22:15, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

Keep: The page shall not be removed. Notability and significance was confirmed by adding more sources, a list of films, and the national awards. Partizan Kuzya (talk) 20 November 2020


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 * Comment, Belarussian WP has an article on Anikey (see here), unsure whether this helps? Coolabahapple (talk) 07:28, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

→Thank you! I will work on linking it to Russian and English WP. --Partizan Kuzya (talk) 12:50, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

Belarusian WP and Belarusian Tarashkevitsa WP were linked to Anikey's English WP page. Partizan Kuzya (talk) 18:03, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

Delete. The article says everything twice, a very bad sign. It also looks like much of the work listed is student work, although it is not clear from the article. It does not appear that this person satisfies WP:NACTOR. -- Ssilvers (talk) 05:43, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

→User:Ssilvers Can you clarify what do you mean by "student work"? Translation or her work? Anikey is an actress who acted in 30+ movies in the past 17 years, besides being one of the leading actresses of the most prestigious and oldest national theater in Belarus. She is a recepient of 2 National Awards granted by the president of the country. She made a significant contribution to the Belarusian theater.

Can you specify what is repeated twice?

It feels that you made your decision by skimming through the article. I undertand that the topic might be unfamiliar to you. The reason why the article was flagged in the begin, I believe, is because it was published incomplete. Her work and awards were added after, as well as more reliable sources in the Bibliography section. Partizan Kuzya (talk) 15:38, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete nothing here indicates she has had even one significant role in a notable production, let alone the multiple such roles required for notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:18, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - this completely fails WP:BASIC and WP:NACTOR; the sources do not establish notability Spiderone  20:52, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Response: I suspect there is either a lack of understanding of the non-English culture among the reviewers or bias against non-English performers. It is not inclusive of Wikipedia to write only about American cinematography. To clarify: Bibliography contains multiple inteviews of Anikey on National TV, in the national magazine founded by the Ministry of Culture, the oldest Belarusian newspaper, the post-Soviet mass newspaper. As such, the Anikey article complies with WP:BASIC and WP:NACTOR. Partizan Kuzya (talk) 06:23, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Keep: Svetlana Anikey is one of the leading and well known acresses of Belarus. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sombrik (talk • contribs) 19:29, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Could you please provide in this AFD reliable sources that shows subject of our article satisfies GNG or could you show us which criterion from NACTOR subject satisfies? Without which merely saying she is notable isn’t a valid argument. Celestina007 (talk) 21:01, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

→Thank you. Will do. In about two weeks (short on time right now). I want to translate Kureichik and Zhuk beforehand to show you more connections of Anikey to the current most contributing Belarusian films and film directors. Partizan Kuzya (talk) 04:08, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Here's coverage of Svetlana Anikey by two major news outlets of Belarus: BelTA and tut.by stating that she is a prominent Belarusian actress: https://www.belta.by/culture/view/svetlana-anikej-ne-nuzhno-zatsiklivatsja-na-razocharovanijah-304299-2018/ https://news.tut.by/culture/692068.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sombrik (talk • contribs) 15:11, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * The first source you provided directly above this comment talks about a movie and mentions her but doesn’t discuss her with in-depth significant coverage as required by GNG
 * The second source is an interview hence is of no cogent value to GNG as it isn’t independent of her & GNG requires “in-depth significant coverage in reliable sources independent of the subject, so in all we still have nothing. Celestina007 (talk) 15:22, 3 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per others, she doesn't appear to meet WP:NACTOR. Yilloslime (talk) 19:48, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Comment: There is unfortunate SYSTEMIC BIAS here. Compare, this article nominated for deletion of Svetlana Anikey (female; artist; recognized by her country - 2 national awards; unknown culture - Belarus; all reviewers who voted "Delete" are unfamiliar with the culture) with Peter Vyncke (male; businessman; no recognition on the national level; popular culture - Belgium/Flanders; no "Delete" votes; the only 2 votes are "Keep" votes from one ~Belgian reviewer and a page creater [Dutch speaker, the language of Flanders/Belgium]). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Vyncke. Partizan Kuzya (talk) 02:09, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

The first inclusion criteria for entertainers in Wiki:Notability https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(people) says that the person "Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions". Svetlana Anikey was in more than 60 films, worked at one the biggest Belarusian theaters for 18 years and is a recipient of the First National Theater Award for Best Actress, Top Actor's Award of All-Polish Festival of Contemporary Drama and Francysk Skaryna Medal. I believe this should be enough to prove her notability. Sombrik (talk)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Relisting as this is a BLP and the article has been expanded since many of the comments were made; whether those additions are enough for notability is another question.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Black Kite (talk) 01:10, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep looks like this article needs cleanup to make notability more clear rather than deleting. Artw (talk) 01:47, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per Partizan Kuzya, Sombrik and Artw. This actress has been performing for 20 years and her entry appears in three other Wikipedias. She has acted in numerous plays, has credits in 52 films and won three major acting awards. Her English Wikipedia entry has 13 inline cites and ten links under section header "Bibliography", including an IMDb link with film credits. More than sufficient for retention of entry. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 05:44, 6 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep, I read her BY and RU articles and she is a decorated artist in Belarus. The article needs some work though, but no reason to delete it. Thanks, Kolma8 (talk) 12:06, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep: Anikey is a prominent Belarusian actress with an extensive filmography; she has been a recipient of two national awards. These factors satisfy the criterion of notability. --ChickenLady1984 (talk) 05:46, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep, first, she passes WP:NACTOR, since she's had multiple significant roles, Mortal Kombat Series (TV), Crystal (film), Hotel for Cinderella (TV), the national theater award, while not having an article on English WP, appears to be a pretty big thing in Belarus.  Onel 5969  TT me 17:13, 13 December 2020 (UTC)


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