Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Svyatoslav Pestov


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to Factor (programming language). King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 17:04, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Svyatoslav Pestov

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Prod was contested with no reason given. No outside reliable and verifiable sources given to establish notability. Yaksar (let's chat) 21:39, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
 * For the purposes of transparency, I should probably point out that for the same reasons I nominated
 * Join Java
 * Joy (programming language)
 * Svyatoslav Pestov
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 * Algae (programming language)
 * Pure (programming language)

Oppose deletion. While the page indeed contains no outside sources, the related pages on Factor (programming language) and jEdit seem to contain few of them. Grey Hood  Talk  22:00, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Then by all means, identify them, add the info in, and cite them. But remember that sources written by the author or that discuss his work but not him don't help. Understand I've got no issue with this article's existence, it just has to be correctly sourced to prove it's notability.--Yaksar (let's chat) 22:07, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:24, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Computing-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 15:49, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 15:49, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Alpha Quadrant    talk    04:19, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge to Factor (programming language), the subject's current active project. --Cyber cobra (talk) 02:44, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I further note that Factor's notability is not directly relevant here; that would be a matter for another AfD. --Cyber cobra (talk) 01:01, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Delete - does not pass WP:BIO in any form, his only claim to fame notability is creating the Factor programming language and one of the dozens of free text editing software. Given Factor (programming language) is essentially based on primary sources, I doubt that it passes the notability guidelines as well, thus there is nothing to keep about Mr. Pestov.--70.80.234.196 (talk) 12:55, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge to Factor without prejudice to recreation. Note that new material has been added to the Svyatoslav Pestov article.  Author satisfies both the definition of notability in WP:BIO, "The topic of an article should be notable, or 'worthy of notice'; that is, 'significant, interesting, or unusual enough to deserve attention or to be recorded'"; and WP:AUTHOR point 2, "The person is known for originating a significant new concept, theory or technique."  Unscintillating (talk) 18:03, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
 * While I note you added a bunch of references, these seem to consist of
 * A bunch from his own website
 * Articles that only mention him in passing as having created the language (as in just one sentence).
 * A link to download his program, which from what I can tell has no information on him at all.
 * A video of lecture he gave, which, while better than the others, certainly does not count as strong independent coverage.
 * --Yaksar (let's chat) 18:10, 13 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete, oppose merge per the lack of reliable sources. The sources added by are unreliable and do not establish notability. Analysis of the sources in the article: 1.  – SourceForge, a free webhosting service, is not a reliable source because of the lack of editorial oversight.  2.  – sitepoint.com receives, and pays for, user-generated content. It is similar to Examiner.com, which is blacklisted on Wikipedia. I note that the author, Scott Beatty, has written only one article on sitepoint.com and that the subject, Slava Pestov, is mentioned but once&mdash;in the "Acknowledgements" section: "The core developer of jEdit is Slava Pestov."  3.  – a download link from SourceForge that fails to mention the subject does not establish notability.  4.  – oujda-portail.net, a video-hosting website, is dubiously reliable.   5.  – the subject's personal website does not establish notability.   6.  – the subject's personal website does not establish notability.   A Google News Archive search returns no reliable sources. This is the same with a Google Scholar search and a Google Books search.  The subject fails Notability (people). Because none of the sources used in the article are remotely reliable, this article fails Verifiability and Biographies of living persons and cannot be merged to Factor (programming language). Cunard (talk) 08:12, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.