Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Swami Santa Dasji Kathiababa


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy delete. This article was speedy deleted as a CSD G4 so I'm closing this discussion. Liz Read! Talk! 20:44, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

Swami Santa Dasji Kathiababa

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Non-notable religious person. As far as I can tell from a search on Google there are no independent reliable sources in English for this person. There is an article on Bengali Wikipedia about this person: bn:সন্তদাস কাঠিয়াবাবা, but the sources cited are just as awful as the English-language Wikipedia article on him. This suggests to me that finding reliable sources about him is just as unachievable in Bengali as it is in English. By the way the article has a collection of redirects from its page moves: Santadasji Kathiababa, Santa Das Kathiababa, Santa Dasji Kathiababa. Please can these be deleted too. -- Toddy1 (talk) 15:13, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Hinduism, Bangladesh,  and India. - "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (work / talk) 16:28, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep: Passes second criteria of WP:RELPEOPLE which says "Have been appointed to multiple or significant roles of leadership within a major religion." and he served as Devacārya of Nimbarka Sampradaya. ​​​​​​​𝐋𝐨𝐫𝐝𝐕𝐨𝐥𝐝𝐞𝐦𝐨𝐫𝐭𝟕𝟐𝟖🧙‍♂️Let's Talk ! 18:28, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Where did you find that he served as Devacārya of Nimbarka Sampradaya? Neither the article itself nor the references used say that. If you can provide sourcing, that would be an immense help in resolving this AfD, but as it stands I see no real notability being backed by anything other than circular linking to Bengali Wikipedia. Nmarshall25 (talk) 20:55, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment I’m pretty sure this was deleted at AfD a year or so ago, likely under a somewhat different name. Mccapra (talk) 20:04, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Articles for deletion/Santadas Kathiababa resulted in delete on 28 August 2021
 * Articles for deletion/Santadas Kathiababa (2nd nomination) resulted in delete on 9 March 2022
 * -- Toddy1 (talk) 21:23, 1 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete: The sources that Srabanta Deb keeps re-adding to this article are not necessarily reliable and are not independent of the subject matter. Looking through page revisions will demonstrate that I have attempted to clear up some of the references used. I have spent some time reviewing the referenced materials and would be grateful if anyone could verify the information contained in the book Santadas Kathamrita. I cleared up the other references. I am concerned about the independence of the YouTube video and the lack of clear information on the GODNIC site, but I am willing to at least leave those in for now. This is a somewhat reluctant delete since it seems like the figure might be important, but Wikipedia ultimately needs reliability and independence for new articles, not mere importance. Nmarshall25 (talk) 21:13, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I crosslinked the page to other wikis that have information about the same person and am seriously concerned about the number of WP:CIRCULAR violations across the English WP (a couple of revisions ago), Bengali WP, and Tatar WP (which links to an article of this very subject which was previously deleted).
 * See:
 * Articles for deletion/Santadas Kathiababa
 * Articles for deletion/Santadas Kathiababa (2nd nomination)
 * Nmarshall25 (talk) 21:26, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Articles about this figure have also been deleted repeatedly in the Tamil Wikipedia. See: . It is concerning that User:Srabanta Deb seems to be the only editor on any language who considers this figure notable and that (apparently) no one is able to readily find acceptable references about him in any of English, Bengali, Tatar, or Tamil.
 * I am also concerned that this might be a form of long term abuse that would be appropriate to elevate to WP:ARBITRATION. Nmarshall25 (talk) 16:02, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. Lack of independent sources, at least in the several languages that I can read. BoyTheKingCanDance (talk) 02:39, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Request not to remove Swami Santadasji Kathiababa's edit. Swami Santadasji Kathiababa was the first Bengali saint and eminent figure of Hinduism in the Indian subcontinent. Santdasji has many devotees all over the world. To preserve the great biography of Santadasji forever and to let future generations know about him, I have edited English Wikipedia. Swami Santadasji Kathiyababa Swami Santadasji Kathiyababa was famous like Swami Vivekananda, Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Abhaycharanabrinda Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada. But I am personally very hurt that this edit of Santdasji is repeatedly removed. I and Swami Santadasji Kathiyababa's followers all over the world request that this edit be kept in English Wikipedia forever. Srabanta Deb (talk) 02:24, 2 March 2023 (UTC)


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