Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Swamp Water

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was delete. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 21:35, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

Swamp Water
not notable / origional research / cookbook. I can find several references to swamp water as a beverage, but they all refer to alcoholic drinks. This reminds me of a friend who would make Mountain Beer by mixing Mountain Dew and root beer. -Casito&#8669;Talk 21:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep as long as we are keeping cocktail recipes here we should treat non-alcoholic ones the same way. Rmhermen 22:48, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but we can't even verify this one exists. Delete. Meelar (talk) 23:32, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia keeps recipes of notable cocktails (see List of cocktails). I can list several cocktails unique to my circle of friends. One would have to show that Swamp Water is notable, and not unique to a certain circle of friends.-Casito&#8669;Talk 00:33, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * We don't keep cocktail recipies here. The recipies go in Wikibooks:Bartending:Cocktails.  What we keep are encyclopaedia articles about cocktails (with the implication that they have to be more than just arbitrary names to label recipes).  Compare Martini cocktail and Wikibooks:Bartending:Martini (which could do with some expansion, incidentally) to get a rough idea of the difference.  I'd be happy to Wikibooks this to Wikibooks:Bartending:Swamp Water as long as it is demonstrated that this is the generally accepted name that this recipe goes under, which this article doesn't.  (I've made up names for arbitrary mixtures of soft drinks, too.)  Of course, this article doesn't belong on the encyclopaedia for the reasons given by Casito, so Delete. Uncle G 04:16, 2005 Apr 21 (UTC)
 * Weak keep. When I was a wee lad, I remember our swamp water was a mix of root beer and orange soda.  I get the impression that there isn't a single Swamp Water, but rather that is a concept that is regularly invented independently by creative, thirsty young people.  I think we might be able to say something about that concept.  (There might be a similar mechanism at work among creative, thirsty adults which leads to the alcoholic variants.) --TenOfAllTrades | Talk 04:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, notability not established. Megan1967 05:00, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. This is a recipe.  If it can be proven that it has notability other than what's inside of it and how it's made, I'll change my vote to keep. Mo0 [ talk ] 06:18, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete unless clear and verifiable evidence is presented that this name is used by a significant group. Rossami (talk) 17:12, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Transwiki Wikt. This is not a recipe precisely; see comment-vote of TenOfAllTrades 04:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC). But it is a dicdef.  &mdash;msh210 17:28, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. From the comments here, it seems that swamp water is a reasonably common name for a variety of green-brown beverages.  If this is a researchable topic, and someone wanted to write an article about it, then keep.  But this is not that article.  FWIW, the swampwater I am familiar with is vodka, orange juice, food coloring, and dry ice. Shimmin 17:20, Apr 22, 2005 (UTC)
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