Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Swashbucklers of the 7 Skies


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) &mdash; fortuna  velut luna  14:01, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

Swashbucklers of the 7 Skies

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Sole reference is a specialty encyclopedia originally published by the same publisher; this article reads as a gloss of the article contained therein. I suggest that this is not sufficient to demonstrate notability. Ewilen (talk) 03:40, 22 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep the nominator manages to pack two errors into one sentence; neither Designers and Dragons (original publisher: Mongoose) or Swashbucklers of the 7 Skies (original publisher, Atomic Sock Monkey Press) was "originally published by the same publisher" (Evil Hat) so there is no COI as implied by the nominator. The game is one of Chad Underkoffler's most successful, and has been extensively reviewed in various media; it is certainly Notable. Newimpartial (talk) 04:07, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I may be mistaken on those details, but Designers and Dragons is currently published in a new edition by Evil Hat, as is Sot7S. (I can only find references to an EH edition of the latter.) There are no other references in the article. 04:36, 22 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep per Newimpartial. Designers was originally published by Mongoose, which is totally independent of Evil Hat, and the original version discussed the game plenty, while the subsequent edition of the book published by Evil Hat simply expanded on the material. The same applies to all four articles nominated by the same nominator, and I will look for more sources / reviews for all of them. BOZ (talk) 04:42, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Swashbucklers has also been reviewed by Ken Hite and by Ryan Macklin, so we shouldn't really be hesitating about Notability. Nominations for deletion need to take into account all the sources that could be used, not only ones cited in the article. Newimpartial (talk) 05:07, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Games-related deletion discussions. Newimpartial (talk) 19:11, 22 July 2017 (UTC)


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