Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Swissôtel Chicago


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was  delete. Insufficient independent reliable sources. Jayjg (talk) 02:38, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Swissôtel Chicago

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Contested speedy deletion and prod. This local subsidiary of Swissôtel fails to be notable on its own. Unless User:Bradv who claims to find 100+ Google News entries on it, I can only get a maximum of nine non-sinigficant Google News hits for Swissôtel Chicago. It may be locally important for the city but with the corporation having an article I don't even see a need for a redirect for this local house. If somebody can find claims of nationwide or international notability for this very subject (not for Swissôtel in general) please feel free to add them to the article though. De728631 (talk) 19:15, 21 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:CHAIN. It doesn't meet CSD A7 because "designed by noted architect X" is a claim of significance, but if there is anything truly notable to say about its architecture, there will be reliable sources to cite. --Darkwind (talk) 19:19, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. Article was nominated for speedy deletion one minute after it was created, and prodded after ten. Clicking on the find sources links above reveals plenty of potential sources. I haven't looked through them all to know if any of them are reliable and non-trivial, but I guarantee whoever is trying to delete this hasn't either. Brad 19:35, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete (weak) References 1-4 are broken links 'This page does not exist'... The other references are to 3 travel guides, not 'news sources'.  Looking at the news search, there are lots references in Hotel trade magazines, references in travel sections of regular newspapers, lots of passing mentions....  OTOH, there are a lot of them.  David V Houston (talk) 22:58, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment The first four reference links were broken because the article's creator messed up the wikicode. I've restored his original refs (see history), but as I noted before, none of those 4 do even mention the word Chicago nor do they relate to this particular Hotel, they are merely CVs of some top Swissôtel people. And as to having lots of general references, what we need is something that makes this particular house stick out, not the usual "Celebrity X has arrived in Chicago and will lodge in Swissôtel" or "Meeting Y held at Swissôtel Chicago". That's part of the business and is just trivial for such an establishment. De728631 (talk) 23:46, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,   A rbitrarily 0    ( talk ) 23:24, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Illinois-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:16, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:16, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment Several awards have been added to the article, including references (some of the latters being mere directory listings and spammy promotional pieces which I have removed). I'm not sure though about the significance of these so-called awards by a number of business magazines, e.g. what is the "Pinnacle Award"? Someone in the know should assess that. De728631 (talk) 20:55, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Keep   all major luxury hotels are notable. there is always material available about th construction, financing ,etc. Just has to be found, and it will be if left there for people to gradually work on it.  DGG ( talk ) 05:30, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Honest Question Are all major luxury hotels notable as a matter of policy? -- Nuujinn (talk) 13:32, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
 * there is no established guideline, but we usually do keep them, and so I would suggest it become one.  DGG ( talk ) 02:29, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.