Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Swiss Management Center (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Stifle (talk) 09:26, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Swiss Management Center
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Fails WP:N, as in the previous AfD. The references given do not constitute substantial independent coverage. The Newsweek links are advertisements, and the rest of the references are mere rankings, indices, listings etc.; not the sort of coverage that indicates notability.  Sandstein  20:14, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep I disagree with the assertion above that the cited sources do not indicate notability. Although fatally flawed, rankings are immensely important to the general public and the high rankings possessed by this institution convey de facto notability.  Furthermore, there is an assumption of notability for accredited institutions.  (I agree, however, that the article needs considerable work and should more clearly demonstrate the notability of the subject.)  ElKevbo (talk) 11:40, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions.  —• Gene93k (talk) 14:22, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Switzerland-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 14:22, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
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 * Keep as an accredited degree granting intitution with some coverage in reliable sources. and  supplement the ranking inclusions. -- Whpq (talk) 15:20, 3 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep. This university is just about as notable as other universities such as the University of Phoenix or Argosy University. Further it has been ranked by the Financial Times, a well known publication that also ranks schools such as Harvard University. Also accreditation is a valid and reliable source. A Google search will indicate that the professors there have published research. Iconoclast2007 (talk) 19:04, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Based on this article is seems that they are now named SMC University:  I would suggest changing the Wikipedia article title to SMC University. Iconoclast2007 (talk) 19:20, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment. I have edited the article to accurately describe the Financial Times source, which says in a note at the bottom, "40 of the top online MBA providers. Schools are listed by the number of enrolled distance learning MBA students. This is not a comprehensive list." Thus it is not being described by the FT as one of the ten best online schools in the world. I would also note that being accredited cannot be a reason for notability without consideration of the status of the accrediting bodies. I don't know anything about the accrediting bodies for this college, but if they are being used to support notability then some evidence should be presented that they are reputable, as there is no such evidence in their Wikipedia articles. Phil Bridger (talk) 22:38, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Their accreditor is CHEA-recognized; no other assertion of reputability should be needed. ElKevbo (talk) 23:28, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
 * The CHEA doesn't appear to list any program of this school as accredited, see (note that every other school listed has "business" listed in the "accredited program" column but that column for the Swiss Management Center is blank) and the specific entry for the Swiss Management Center which also has no accredited program listed. Phil Bridger (talk) 23:59, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not familiar with the specific details of ACBSP accreditation so I can't really explain things. But their website says that this institution is accredited.  (I wonder if some of the confusion may be related to the fact that ACBSP is an American accreditor but this institution is Swiss...?) ElKevbo (talk) 00:13, 6 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep - School appears to be accredited by at least two relevant accreditation bodies, and there are adequate sources available to write a useful article. DickClarkMises (talk) 08:33, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
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